I have criticised the boomer Karl Denninger before. Here, and here.
And now I will do it again, but on an entirely different basis, which actually ties in with a MUCH larger picture I have been trying to explain to other people for a long time.
Karl has a long very black pilled post about having children and the future, here.
In fairness to him, I think his overall point is not necessarily that high IQ, K-select people should not have children, as many have accused him of doing. I am quite sure he is merely pointing out why it is unlikely that they will. And insofar as his boomer level of analysis goes, he is “right”. That is, the average NPC will think and “reason” much along the lines Karl indicates. So my critique is not really with his observation of all the negative facts he points out. In the main he is “correct” about his individual examples of reasons why people are less likely to choose to have children.
The desirable people he and I both mean, that is, high IQ, K-select, generally honest and responsible, and reliable people with a good sense of justice, common sense and the ability to do at least decent levels of logic, math, writing and reading comprehension.
But as usual, Karl is missing the big picture. As is typical of the boomer mentality, that thinks primarily in terms of me, me, me, and even when describing global events is guided by their perennial laser-like focus on how anything affect them in the specific, he seems largely incapable of the very concept of synergism.
It is a rare skill generally, but it happens that some of us (mostly GenX) are naturally talented at it, so allow me to point out the errors of his thinking, starting from the exact opposite direction that boomer thinking begins at: that is, the REALLY big pictures frames first. The ones that ignore us, that is you and me specifically completely. Here we go:
1. Nature doesn’t care about you specifically
In the big scheme of things, those who do not reproduce sufficiently die out. Nature is pretty brutal about it and tends to operate on the principles of large numbers. And exceptions to that rule because of different large numbers.
It may just be humanity’s lot that we go the way of mouse utopia aka Universe 25. In which case, we’re all doomed and so are all our children. And if so, why worry about it. Worrying about it would be a total waste of time. Besides which you do NOT know this for certain, so assuming it off the bat is an error. So, as a function of reason and logic, this specific idea must be ignored.
Treating it as valid or true can only lead you to depression and misery in a situation where your irrational belief in a “certainty” you cannot possibly know is a certainty, becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. This point alone, the Universe 25 possibility, should make it obvious that similar thoughts that lead down similar (if less total) outcomes are also to be ignored.
So for example, the idea that “all white people will soon be extinct” or “high IQ people do not breed together because there is not enough of them” or the more common “marriage and children is a loser’s game because all women are whores and will divorce-rape you” and all the various variants of that kind, are in essence self-fulfilling, loser’s bets on life. The fact that your specific marriage may turn into a hellscape, or your specific life becomes a dead end is not relevant to the entire sub-species you represent.
Yes nature does not care about you specifically, but you specifically can and do affect nature. Make 15 children and chances are most of them survive. If they all too make 15 children from age 20 on, like you did, guess what the landscape of your tribe looks like 100 years from now if you just start out with you and your wife as Adam and Eve? On that basis, starting with you and your wife having had 15 children by the time you are both say 40, if all your children and theirs and so on do the same, meaning that every 40 years they all have a batch of 15 children each, if you lived to be 140, you would have over 17 thousand descendants. 17,275 to be exact. And if the average age of death was say 80, then almost all of them would still be alive, since the first iteration (at year 20) is only 135 people. And that’s only ONE family. Imagine if you have ten such families in the same area. You now have a small nation after one century. Which in the scheme of things is not so much time. And if the genetic serums actually sterilise and wipe out most of humanity, you will not only be a small nation, you will be the majority within it. And it might not be such a small geographical area after all. Now imagine them all of the same religion that takes no crap from depopulationist satanists like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and their pedophile friends.
“But people don’t make 15 children each, and how do you feed them all, and send them to college?!?”
Patience grasshopper. People who bought the lies and live in clown world no longer make 15 children. But people did do that for centuries in Catholic countries. And that was before the internet, and Amazon deliveries, and often before indoor plumbing and central heating, and certainly before electricity and tractors and industrial fertilisers and automated harvesting machines… so let that sink in a little and park it in your brain somewhere while we continue to look at reality and possibilities instead of the ghosts boomers put in your head.
“But even if smart white people with good ethics, strong Catholic religious beliefs and enough money/land/whatever start reproducing at that ridiculous and unrealistic rate, they will still be outnumbered by the millions of dumb, brown, evil, people!”
First of all, even if things were reduced to that simplistic level of thinking, realise that the number of white people on the planet always was a minority when compared to the number of non-white people. And probably always will be.
Remember when I said nature doesn’t care about you specifically and operates on the principle of large numbers, with the exception of other large numbers? White people, and the Japanese, are two such examples, just to pick a couple. Despite not being a majority, white people have managed to secure lands and space for themselves very successfully over the millennia. A combination of strong imagination, higher average IQ, and religious beliefs that fostered high-trust and co-operation, served them well when they ejected infiltrating and noxious tribes, ethnicities and behaviours, which they did in the past with ferocious attitudes.
Similarly the Japanese have retained a really quite unique culture on this planet by similarly ruthlessly avoiding to entertain the admixing of their population with the teeming masses.
A perhaps even more shocking example is Catholicism itself, which around 400 AD or thereabouts, when it really was a dark time on pretty much all fronts for humanity in general and Catholics (i.e. the only Christians that ever existed) in particular, St. Benedictine decided to retire to some apparently godforsaken regions and start monasteries. And some 600 years later, the Catholic world was (and remained for a long time) the utter pinnacle of human achievement in everything from the arts, to the courage of men, the safety of lands that were previously the domain of brigands, the ending of women and children as chattel, and generally the betterment of humanity as a whole while being perfectly capable and able to fight back against less civilised barbarians that hounded them.
And keep in mind that Catholic monks do not even reproduce at all! But just by their influence, they firstly created self-sustaining monasteries, then spread the gospel and civilisation all round them, so much so that they even converted the Vikings that used to raid and murder them mercilessly, by giving them lands and asking for their protection. And after a couple of centuries, those same blonde giants were off to the Crusades to defend Christendom. All this was supposedly impossible if you accept Denninger’s base premise which is simply that basic math has all the answers.
Basic math has a lot of the answers, but life is always more interesting that that. As I wrote almost 30 years ago, in original version of The Face on Mars published in 1995, when dealing with math and reality, the theory looks like 1+2=3 or perhaps x+2=3 so we can figure out x easily. In theory.
Better scientists realise that things are a bit more like x+y=3 so both x and y can have a wide range of values. And synergists like me realise life is most accurately described as x+y=z, where both x and y and even z have ranges of probabilities and while computers can in theory predict things very accurately (if the input data is very accurate) they cannot and will not ever be able to account for human nature and reality as a whole. Because the fly in the teleporting machine, the asteroid against the dinosaurs, and the “crazy” St. Benedict, or the iron minded King Leonidas, will throw your entire large number theory set right out the window. And in fact, a human mind that can see these patterns of relationships and figure them out analogously, usually has a better chance of getting it right than any computer prediction of the future.
So. The realisation from point number one is that while nature does not care about you specifically, you specifically can affect nature. Crazy as that sounds. And the main item required for you to have a chance to do so? Unreasonable belief that defies current “popular” thinking, but is based in sound synergistic principles, like large number theory, persistence, and of course, the most successful human belief system ever used by humans, actual Catholicism.
2. Becoming that different large number.
If you want to avoid becoming the leaf in the stream that just ends up being compost, and if your entire tribe, way of life, family, looks like it is just being carried on by world events, guess what, you need to become one of those large numbers that is the exception to the large number concept that you will become extinct. How do you do that? Simple, really, if you think about it.
By being utterly passionate, unreasonable, counter-intuitively absurdly dedicated and persistent, over an equally absurd, unreasonable and “crazy” length of time. St. Benedict didn’t just decide to try his hand at monastery creation and life for a few years. He spent the rest of his life doing it. Relentlessly.
The reason I have achieved so many different things, visited so many places, speak three languages fluently and a couple or three others haltingly, and learnt so many different skills at a high level enough that I could reasonably be considered a professional at several very different endeavours, is because I simply put in more time, more effort, more obsessive thought and action into those things that interested me than most people do, and even than most supposed “professionals” in that field do in many cases.
So, if you want your DNA to make it, you need to go counter to the zeitgeist. Which is healthy in any case since the current “Western” zeitgeist is that you should submit to different cultures and ethnicities than your own. That the family unit is evil, marriage terrible, and making children a very selfish thing unworthy of civilised people. Oh and you should also be gay. Or a cross-dressing, self-mutilating tranny. And make your kids, if you were so unwise to have any, become gay, underage drag queens too.
Really, regardless of your intentions, going 180 degrees away from the current zeitgeist in the West is healthier than not doing so on any scale. But if you want to go the whole hog, then peruse this blog and the various articles I wrote on farming, beating clown world, and so on, and above all realise two things:
- Yes it’s hard. Very. Get used to it. It’s just how it is.
- Win. Build it. Find the impossible way. Keep getting back up and keep saying “Fuck them”. Eventually everyone dies, so make your life here count.
You overcome the statistics of nature by becoming your own large number anomaly. So git to it, you unreasonable madman.
3. The black pill is a lie.
All fear is a lie, ultimately. And the black pill of doom and gloom is pure fear-based poison. It doesn’t matter what type of fear it is. Fear you will not have a job. Fear you will not have enough money. Fear you will hate your life. Fear you will be a bad parent. Fear your kids will suffer. Fear you can’t do it. Fear you will fail. Fear.
Well, let me reassure you: You will lose your job. Somewhere along the line, if you haven’t yet, you will. You will never have enough money. Never. Elon Musk still doesn’t. Just ask him. Your life will have giant events of major suckage in it. Everyone’s does. You will fuck up multiple aspects of parenting. Everyone does. Your best bet is to keep the damage to a minimum and try and ensure your children understand reality and still love you when they are all grown up. Your kids will suffer. Everyone does. You will fail. Multiple times, at multiple things. You will feel fear in your life. Many times for many different reasons.
There. Got all that? Good. Now get off your ass and go do all those scary things anyway.
No one learnt to walk without falling down. A lot.
No one learnt to read and write without scrawling and misspelling first. A lot.
No one has achieved great things without persistently improving on his or her own screw ups. Failing is not the problem. Quitting is. So, as I explained, become your own large number anomaly. And if God is gracious he will give you enough of a brain to realise the miracle point of when it is not worth bashing your head into the same rock and when, instead, doing so, will eventually form a thick enough skin and skull that you will break the rock and break through to a better place.
Life is hard. Bad shit happens. People die. Evil exists. And on and on. So what? You can whine and bitch and cry and hide in a corner and try and have someone, anyone, everyone, feel sorry for you, or you can get up and become a large number anomaly. Them’s the choices, and no one gets a free ride. So pick one. I picked mine long ago.
4. Being afraid of 10 things means you miss the big opportunity.
If you do go and read the whole long litany of fear compiled by Denninger, you might get depressed. You might think he has valid points and they stack. Let me present just one case or two of his flawed theory.
Then you think about the child getting older. He or she is rather bright and would perhaps like a college education. You see the bills pile up on those who are there now, and the growth of that price over the last 20 years. You see $100,000 or more in debt larded up on someone who studies gender or black history and a “professor” who claims that capitalism is horrible — while pulling down a six-figure salary and forcing your child to pay the next kid over’s tuition in Calculus class because you, not your child, have more money than his parents do. You think “oh, my kid is a math whiz and will study programming” which sounded great 20+ years ago but then you remember the many H1bs that multiple large firms brought in to replace all of their American citizen programmers, forcing said Americans to train their replacements before being fired in order to get any severance at all! Thus that $100,000 taken on in debt to go to college, you realize, can be rendered worthless by said corporations even if your kid makes good choices as soon as someone from India will do the work for less money. This wild escalation in the cost of an education is not by random luck either, which would be a risk everyone has to take — three decades ago there was no Internet and colleges were the only real place you could learn a lot of things. Today anyone can learn anything from literally anywhere with nothing more than a $50 cellphone, a $200 laptop and $50/month for Internet service so why has the cost of learning and proving it at a college level of competence gone up by five or more times in the last 30 or so years instead of costing almost nothing to simply take a set of proctored tests and prove competence? Reality is that all of this is due to the deliberate policies and actions of universities, governments and corporations which will screw your child without any possibility of redress when he or she grows up — and there is no evidence that it is slowing down or will be stopped.
So he points out that:
- College/University is stupidly expensive
- They don’t even teach anything useful in most cases
- You can learn most things to a decent level by doing your own research on a $200 laptop
And yet he’s really SOLD on sending kids to college.
Can you see the boomer level thinking? Screw college. Learn how to distinguish and grow the plants that can be used to make tinctures and remedies for various things and sell them only to people who you know. I guarantee you that when the next load of mRNA crap embedded in food, “normal” vaccine shots, or anything else comes along, the people with a still functioning brain will not care too much about your lack of a PhD if the stuff you use on yourself and your loved one works for them too.
Do you really need a degree to be able to put plumbing pipes together, or learn the principles of electrical wiring? Sure, insurance and such is a thing and if you screw things up, or even if you don’t you might be sued into ruin.
Yes, these are real problems, and sometimes have good reasons for being there. I certainly don’t want a pedophile like Oprah’s John of “God” cutting into me or mine as if he were a surgeon. I’d like to know that anyone that needs to actually do a surgery is competent and properly trained; and can in turn be sued into poverty if he screws up because he is not.
But the problem is that over the last 4 years these supposed paragons of ethics have in the main been mass-murdering bastards who lied and lied and lied to your face. Like good old Fauci and his buddies did. So… while I am not really keen on the local witch-doctor’s bone-throwing, the local GP dispensing covid genetic serums is certainly not higher on the totem pole as far as I am concerned, thank you very much. Which means what? It means that firstly I will try to educate myself better. Without the use of google, thanks, because mostly google is also a lie now. And secondly I will go only to people I know, whose work I can personally verify and see for myself by meeting their clients, whatever their field might be.
Denninger hasn’t realised that the entire idea of college is dead. Why would you participate in it other than for a very few and very select reasons, and even then, who knows for how long? Clearly homeschooling and learning your own trade is the way.
Here is another and more “total” point he makes towards the end:
I could go on for hours with this but I think you get the point. People don’t choose to have fewer or no children because “that’s how it is” as technology improves. Technological improvement adds choice but society molds opinions and incentives — for good or bad, like it or not.
People make the decision to not have children not because they’re “selfish” but rather on an entirely-rational basis because they look back at their childhood for the baseline and then forward in time and what they see is not improvement but impoverishment, not prosperity but privation, forced compliance and costs shoved upon them while the mandating parties are immune from consequence even when they’re later proved wrong or worse, someone is injured or killed, rampant illegal immigration and destruction of the common person’s standard of living without boundary along with a documented history of forcing the voluntary costs taken by others down their throats along with myriad scams across the board. When projected forward 20 years they recognize that any child they produce today is highly likely to be screwed blind and has a very low probability of having a good life, say much less a better one than they had.
Indeed if they judge that their childhood sucked they may well expect their kids’ childhoods to suck worse and nobody who actually cares about a child they’re contemplating bringing into the world voluntarily signs them up for that.
The people you want to bring children into the world are those who value children and have reason to believe their children will have at least as a good a life as they grew up with and enjoy now, with hope for even better, never mind a belief that their kids will have a fair shake and rational odds of success if they choose to apply themselves.
All of the policies of the last few decades of both government and industry have demonstrated beyond doubt that none of this is likely to be true and thus only those who don’t give a wet crap about their children’s future, or are so rich they believe they can guarantee it even if everyone else has their standard of living go straight to Hell, choose to reproduce.
About the only truly valid point he makes here is the very first one:
society molds opinions and incentives — for good or bad, like it or not.
That is essentially true. And as I have already pointed out, “society” in general today is very sick. That’s the problem. So what’s the solution? Simple: Firstly, realise, as I have been saying often and repeatedly since age 16, there is no such thing as “society”. It doesn’t exist. What you have is a large number of individuals and the large number probabilities that they produce. In reality you have a large number of in-DUH-viduals, which makes the illusion that such a thing as “society” exists quite realistic, but it doesn’t.
You have essentially zombie hordes. And zombie hordes are easily manipulated and pushed into this or that direction or over this or that cliff or fire-pit. So, as a first step don’t be a zombie. Don’t associate with them. Don’t surround yourself with them.
Secondly, begin the process of isolating yourself from zombies and building up relationships with other human beings. This in itself acts as a already quite a good “wall”, or defence from the zombie hordes, but over time, don’t be shy to build literal walls to keep the zombies out of your areas. And the more humans you have in your community that help to built them, the better.
Thirdly, do not let zombies in at any time. Exclude them and exclude anyone who allows them in the village. This sounds harsh, but is basic survival and also basic game theory. St. Benedict “won” precisely because of this point. He allowed in only Catholic monks that had dedicated themselves not only to Catholicism, but his even stricter rules added to the already rather strict rules for Catholic monks. That unwavering zealotry kept the monasteries pure and therefore effective. A bunch of men who spend all their time, praying, meditating on scripture, and working, will soon produce extremely functional communities. And in fact monasteries became wealthy, for they had a surfeit of food or other things they made, so that they became rich enough they became favourite places for the Vikings to raid. So the Catholic monks co-opted the Vikings too, and now Catholicism also added fearsome, pious warrior types to their ranks, alongside thoughtful, intellectual, pious, and studious ones.
If you refuse to allow any people into your midst that don’t subscribe to your general tribe’s zeitgeist (ideas, religion, world-view), then you cannot be corrupted, And over time, your converting of others increases your number. This is basic game theory and works in the natural world as it does in the abstract one of math. It works because it is again based on the principle of large numbers. A persistent, unexpected, but resilient statistical anomaly, becomes its own statistical normality.
Alongside with not rejecting “society” or if you prefer, forming your own, Denninger is (typical for a boomer) preoccupied with the hypothetical suffering of hypothetical children.
Well, guess what, the very vast majority of human beings, including the ones with really terrible lives, still prefer existing to not existing. We know this because aside from the odd cult, or recently mutilated confused teenager that has been indoctrinated into the child abuse ideology of transgenderism, most human beings don’t commit suicide. So, bad as it might be, life still seems to have the win over non-life. Pretty much for everyone. I know for a fact that every one of my children prefers to be here than not having existed. And it is that way for most people. So suck it up buttercup. Remember how I told you life is hard and everyone suffers? It’s true. But it still beats being dead or non-existent by a couple of light years, never mind country miles.
Finally he tries to justify his own weakness, cowardice and fear by appealing to your own sense of concern for your (hypothetical) children. In a most ridiculous manner if you have followed the discussion up to here; that is, by telling you if you really cared about your children, you wouldn’t have them, because they might suffer.
No Karl, no. They absolutely will suffer. And they will cry and feel pain and heartbreak. And then they will dust themselves off, get up and carry on. And make children of their own and if they need to fight off some evil bastards in the future that I didn’t manage to get to myself before I dropped dead, well, so be it, they will have got as much as they can from me in terms of learning how to do that.
Because guess what, you fragile and egomaniacal boomer, my grandparents went through two world wars, massive economic depression and yes, even lack of food. And they made children too. Otherwise I would not be here. And my children wouldn’t be here. And if I had continued believing the horse-shit your generation still shovels around a bit longer than I did, I might not have had any children at all. Instead now I have five of them. And my own daughter, off her own ideas, with no prompting from me on the matter, because she’s still young for me to discuss such things with her in any detail or seriousness, already has it as a pretty solid idea that she wants to have two children by her mid twenties. And if her babysitting of her younger siblings is anything to go by, she probably will, and be a really good mother at it too. And the smaller ones love each other even as they fight and argue and then play and hug a few minutes later.
Because what you missed Karl, in your ranting and raving at the injustices of the world, is the simple fact that yes, things are bad. And yes they could be better, and yes there is wild evil about, but… on one level or another, it has always been this way. Do you think the Spartans and Athenians about to be wiped out by the Persians had an easier life than you do? Or me?
And they would have been wiped out if it weren’t for a “crazy” guy who took his personal bodyguard to the Hot Gates and held off perhaps up to a million Persians for three or four days.
You Karl, with your fears and your impotent rage, ultimately, are more like a whiny, mostly fake, mostly gay Athenian. Me and mine are more like the Spartans that went with Leonidas. And yes, I include my wife and children in that, because she can keep up with me, which is rare and courageous beyond most women, well-beyond certainly all the normies out there worrying about their pedicure and whether they can land a guy with a six or seven figure salary if they just slut it up enough. And my children are on the same path, which can already be seen by the steps they take and the way they relate to the world and themselves in it.
And am I a lone voice in the wind? No. Not by a long shot.
Every sedevacantist family I know has multiple children, at least 4, and counting. And even we Sedevacantists are not even the only ones.
The current Mrs. USA for 2023 has 7 children and lives on a ranch. This is what she said at the finals for her beauty contest:
“When have you felt the most empowered?”
Mrs America 2023: “I have felt this feeling seven times now as I bring these sacred souls to the earth… after I hold that newborn baby in my arms. The feeling of motherhood…is the most empowering feeling I have ever felt.

So go on Karl, invent all the reasons why no one can have multiple children and then whine and whine and whine about it. Meanwhile, Catholics over two millennia created the best civilised nations on Earth by going precisely against every “point” you made, and under conditions that were almost certainly harder than any most people face today. Especially if you remove the conditions created by our own deficient reasoning, Karl.
Reasoning like yours is the real problem. The rest, human beings have dealt with successfully for millennia. And it won’t be the insipid Bill Gates and Klaus Schwabs of the world that will stop me and mine from being here another now and in the future too, a few millennia from now.























Educated Women
As a result of the last post, on SG the discussion had various points. One of the (many) poorly understood “red pills” that are probably the result of your average incel believing/taking advice from your average PUA, is this idea that women should not have an education.
In typical incel fashion, the pagans, the “red pilled” retards, and so on, seem to think that the general aim for humanity is for women not only to reject feminism (a good thing), but also to be semi-literate baby machines (not a good thing – the semi literate part. Like it or not, only women can make babies and everyone normal is fine with it. I know, shocker!).
That may work for you if you are of a certain religious persuasion that tends to hang around camels as nomads in the desert, but by and large is not a great idea for a happy marriage. At least, certainly not for me.
The problem is not a woman being well educated. The problem is if she buys into the feminist and other utter idiocy that the nonsense farms (colleges, universities, schools in general) put on blast every day you are there.
Even in the past, it was thought that for a woman to be well-read was a bonus. And personally, I have always been quite impressed by those women I came to know that had a varied and sometimes surprising number and type of books that they had read.
My wife has a facility with words for example and she is usually way ahead of me in things like anagrams, or play on words, and puns that I dare not repeat, for they are truly awful, as puns are meant to be. But more recently, she has even begun to mix English and Italian words into new constructions. Piggolina for example a mix of Piglet and Piccolina, for our second youngest, who has yet to find a food she does not like munching on.
And although she has not exactly had time since we have been together, she enjoyed reading Jane Eyre and is quite particular about enunciating words correctly and so on. She even managed to read through a couple or three of my fictions books. At least one before we were even together, a feat I don’t think many (any?) women accomplished, including the previous ex-wives. More importantly, I can talk with her about pretty much any topic and receive a reasonable feedback. You know, in the fleeting moments between various work things, and one or more of the five children climbing a wall after some fashion, needing to eat, or get changed, or somehow interrupting in new and varied ways.
The point is that a good education is a good thing, as long as the basics of life are understood. And increasingly, it looks like going back to earlier paper versions of books is really a good idea. I have four daughters, and while I do hope they find good men early and make lots of babies and live happily ever after, I fully intend to see to it they have a decent grasp of logic, reasoning in general, mathematics, and language(s), as well as reading and writing skills that are today seen as exemplary, but that in my day and opinion are merely normal. And if they should pick up how to change a tire, clean out a carburettor, fire a few types of weapons, survey a parcel of land, balance accounting books, and (please God) learn to operate the sewing machine stored in the side room, well, so much the better.
Which reminds me, Vox recently pointed out that books 1 to 8 I believe, of the Castalia House junior classics, are ready for shipping. And you can pick up the entire ebook set for $35 right now, so although if you can get the paper version it’s safer from the EMP strikes of nuclear war, and thus more reliable for when you’re hunkered down in your bunker, it’s certainly a good investment of great stories you can read to your children and then pass on for them to read to theirs eventually.
Along with a hand-written manual with a few blood spots on it of how to survive and navigate our own fast-approaching version of Alpha Complex.
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By G | 7 November 2023 | Posted in Ancient Technology, Books, RPGs, Social Commentary