Kurganing n. 9788 in an infinite series – Yet another retarded illiterate protestant…

UPDATE: You thought it would end there? Oh you sweet innocent…no. Scroll down and you will see the new and even stupider comment than the first one. It will continue endlessly until I ban him, because that is how these retards roll.

Behold stupidity made into human flesh:

Trinity: 1 John 5: 7 — And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.

Never forget what I always told you: Protestant DO NOT READ THE BIBLE.

And if they ever read any part of it, they are mentally incapable of reading for comprehension. And I don’t mean just the Bible. Anything. These fucking morons can’t read a paragraph in a newspaper and rewrite it in their own words if their life depended on it.

As for there is no mention of “catholics” in the Bible… DUH! That’s because there is only ONE Christianity! The very one with Popes, transubstantiation, Virgin Mary, Original Sin, Immaculate conception, Papal infallibility, etc etc etc that PUT THE BIBLE TOGETHER FOR YOU, retard. And the word “Catholic” was required only later to make it clear there is only ONE Christianity, the CATHOLIC one, which by the way, you abysmal idiot, simply means “Universal”.

And are there verses in the Bible that explicitly tell you to NOT split into 40,000 plus “denominations” of heresy? Oh, only a couple dozen or so at least… From my book BELIEVE!

Corinthians 1:10-13; Ephesians 4:4-6; John 17:21; Matthew 16:18; Acts 9:2 and generally the entire New Testament. The instruction was to go and spread the gospel of Christ, not that of men. For at least 1000 years there was no denominational split. And even 500 years later the only split was essentially between East and West and they did not differ so much one from the other. Enter Luther and Henry and now, in a third of that time, you have literally tens of thousands of denominations. No one knows exactly how many, estimates range from about 15,000 at the low end, to over 40,000 presently. It doesn’t take a great leap of logic to see that this fact alone says much about the fruit of most Protestantism.

As for Matthew 16? Well, let’s READ what it actually says shall we?

¹⁵ Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am?

¹⁶ Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.

¹⁷ And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.

¹⁸ And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

¹⁹ And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Oh right, it’s where Jesus makes Simon the head of the Church, and renames him PETER to make the point so clear even retard can get it since in the original, as in Latin, the name PETER means ROCK.

You absolute and complete imbecile.

Behold the average “intellect” of the average Protestant, and weep.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely WHY in the Bible it pretty much tells us almost everyone will end up in Hell. Because they are abysmally lazy, stupid, and above all more arrogantly proud than Satan himself. And with quite less reason to be, given their IQ.

The idiot idiots on, as idiots inevitably do…

Listen here, you utterly stupid bastard, get someone who can read to teach you WHO and WHEN put the BIBLE together, you absolute cretin.

Here is a clue, it was done about 300 years AFTER Jesus ascended, by the CATHOLIC (Universal_ Church that had ALL the behaviours it still retains to this day, i.e. Pope, transubstantiation, Virgin Mary, etc, etc, etc. You complete dickhead, the BIBLE, you so idiotically think is a magic book that appeared out of the sky, handed to you directly in American English, was put together by… CATHOLICS! At the behest of… A POPE!

Also, whether a complete retard like yourself “takes me seriously” or not, in fact even thinks about me at all is less relevant to me than a flea’s fart in a tornado.

Get this in your head: YOU ARE IMMEASURABLY STUPID.

You are also abysmally ignorant, but in your case, it is absolutely clear that no amount of education will help, you are literally too stupid to understand basic concepts like simple English sentences, tying your shoelaces, etc.

But does his stupidity end there? Does it fuck.

Notice he mentions Protestant “traditions” please, do tell: WHAT ARE THEY?

Go on, we will wait. Is it drinking grape juice instead of whine? Having female “bishops”, taking down the crucifix because it may offend Muslims? Go on, serious, we want to know.

Protestantism is not a religion, it’s a mental illness perpetuated by ignorance, stupidity and a complete lack of historical understanding. It is an emotional and irrational response and nothing more.

Seriously, I cannot care at all if “people” of this nature end up in Hell. That no doubt makes me a not very nice Catholic, but surely in Paradise this level of stupidity is absent. And I doubt a few million years in purgatory would be enough for this type of creature to rise to the level of being able to enter heaven.

I mean, they don’t have toilets to scrub in silence there, right?

And there certainly isn’t any kind of purpose beyond janitorial services this guy can perform. And I certainly would not trust him to do that well or even passably anyway. Imagine the germs! Brrrr!

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Now they resort to flat out lying, so here is the screenshot from bible gateway:

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PROLOGUE: About a month or so ago, we saw mouse droppings, the 3 cats obviously slacking, I had first tried this supposed “poison” trap that the average squeamish Italian had suggested. The mouse ate the poison with gusto. Repeatedly. For several weeks. The wife wanted to try ultra-sonic possibly Ukranian drones, or some high tech thing or other. Yes, she is the gadgeteer in the family. I finally did what I always keep reminding myself I should always do in the first place, which is ignore everyone and do what I think best. Occasionally I slip though and still listen to other babbling humans… Correcting this terrible character flaw of mine, I went ahead and ordered a bunch of “try to get the cheese and DIE! with a snap!” style mouse traps. Two days later, dead mouse in the trap, and no more mouse droppings anywhere. Traps are still deployed throughout the home anyway. And so far only one child got a little snap on the finger. Educational. They now know all about mouse traps and how they work!

Note: There was no fanfare made about the dead mouse. It was disposed of and I don’t even recall the kids saying anything at all about it. Also, the cats may have realised they better work or they may not get fed at all anymore. Another dead mouse was found in the driveway.

Cut scene to today, a morning scene, several weeks after the fact. The wife just finished breakfast, older kids are all in school and she is tidying up as she sings along to the 2 year old some nursery rhyme…

Wife: (sing-song voice) “…and we have a mouse in our house…”

2-YO-AG: (in official monotone) “Not anymore we don’t, mom.”

Truly she doesn’t miss anything.

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The below is an article that was originally written by Joseph Roddy, Look Senior Editor and is from LOOK Magazine, January 25, 1966, Volume 30, No. 2.

Keep that in mind: It was written way back in 1966, very shortly after Vatican II “closed” in 1965, with fake “Pope” n.2 of the current era, Montini, squatting on the throne of Peter like a squamous Gargoyle. I have added some [commentary in square brackets and in bold] for further elucidation of the concepts.

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How The Jews Changed Catholic Thinking

For the simple tenets of their faith, most Roman Catholics rely on the catechism’s hard questions and imprimatured answers. Children in Church schools memorize its passages, which they rarely forget the rest of their lives. In the catechism, they learn that Catholic dogma does not change and, far more vividly, that Jews killed Jesus Christ. Because of that Christian concept, for the past 20 centuries anti-Semitism spread as a kind of social disease on the body of mankind. Its incidence rose and fell, but anti-Semites were never quite out of style. The ill-minded who argued all other matters could still join in contempt for Jews. It was a gentlemen’s agreement that carried into Auschwitz.

Few Catholics were ever directly taught to hate Jews. Yet Catholic teaching could not get around the New Testament account that Jews provoked the Crucifixion. The gas chambers were only the latest proof that they had not yet been pardoned.

[The evidence that gas chambers to kill hundreds of thousands (millions!) even existed in Auschwitz (or any other concentration camp) is essentially non-existent. I, like everyone else had accepted that the gas chambers were an incontrovertible fact of history, and the first time I heard the suggestion that there were no such things, I simply assumed my interlocutor was a low IQ, brainwashed Neo-Nazi. So I set out to prove him wrong by doing my own research… and here I am. I hope you do your own research too.]

The best hope that the Church of Rome will not again seem [ seem being a key word. I.e. Propagandised, as say… the gas chambers, or a Jew being placed in a cage with a bear and an eagle every day to be torn apart alive have been also made “factual” history. Yes, truly, look it up.] an accomplice to genocide is the fourth chapter of its Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions, which Pope Paul VI declared Church law near the end of Vatican Council II.

[“Paul the VI” is in fact a fake, antipope and possibly never was Catholic, and everything he did is and always will be null and void as far as any genuine Catholic is concerned. He was fake Pope n.2, after Roncalli himself (“Pope” John XXIII (which incidentally was the name of a previous antipope already that Roncalli took on as yet another sign of his Freemasonry, instead of any Catholicism whatsoever))]

At no place in his address from the Chair of Peter did the Pope talk of Jules Isaac. But perhaps the archbishop of Aix, Charles de Provenchères, had made Isaac’s role perfectly clear some few years earlier. “It is a sign of the times,” the Archbishop said, “that a layman, and a Jewish layman at that, has become the originator of a Council decree.”

Jules Isaac was a history scholar, a Legion of Honor member, and the inspector of schools in France. In 1943, he was 66, a despairing man living near Vichy, when the Germans picked up his daughter and wife. From then on, Isaac could think of little but the apathy of the Christian world before the fate of incinerated Jews. His book Jesus and Israel was published in 1948, and after reading it, Father Paul Démann in Paris searched schoolbooks and verified Isaac’s sad claim that inadvertently, if not by intent, Catholics taught contempt for Jews. Gregory Baum, an Augustinian priest born an Orthodox Jews, [nothing suspicious or infiltrator-ish to see here, just move along citizen] called it “a moving account of the love which Jesus had for his people, the Jews, and of the contempt which the Christians, later, harbored for them.” [Again, no propaganda at all to see here, citizen, move along!]

Isaac’s book was noticed. In 1949, Pope Pius XII received its author briefly. But 11 years went by before Isaac saw real hope. [Translation. the last valid, real, true Pope of the current era, saw through the scam, and given his dealings with Jews during the war, probably already suspected what would be the intent, nevertheless, out of Christian charity still received this guy and heard him out. And obviously decided things were just fine as they were.]

In Rome, in mid-June, 1960, the French Embassy pressed Isaac on to the Holy See. Isaac wanted to see John XXIII. [Of course he would. Roncalli was a full blown Freemason and his invalid ascendency to the Throne of Peter was literally feted in Freemason publications. Anyone familiar with the origins and intent of Freemasonry would be aware of its Judaic roots.] He was passed from the old Cardinal Eugene Tisserant to the archconservative Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani. [By arch-conservative is meant: actual Catholic] Ottaviani sent him on to the 83-year-old Cardinal Andrea Jullien, who stared without seeing and stayed motionless as stone while Isaac told how Catholic teaching led to anti- Semitism. When he had finished, he waited for a reaction, but Jullien stayed in stone. Isaac, who was hard of hearing, stared intently at the prelate’s lips. Time passed, neither spoke. Isaac thought of just leaving, then decided to intrude. “But whom should I see about this terrible thing?” he asked, finally, and after another long pause, the old Cardinal said, “Tisserant.” The silence settled in again. The next word was, “Ottaviani.” Isaac shook that off too. When it was time for another, the word was, “Bea.” With that, Jules Isaac went to Augustin Bea, the one German Jesuit in the College of Cardinals. “In him, I found powerful support,” Isaac said. [Anyone that is aware of the infiltration of the Church would immediately realise these two words alone, “German” and “Jesuit” are enough to paint a picture of what Bea was like. This was later in any case confirmed when Bea’s name was added to the list of Freemasons already deeply installed in the Vatican, that Mino Pecorelli, published in the 1970s]

The next day, the support was even stronger. John XXIII, standing in the doorway of the fourth-floor papal apartment, reached for Jules Isaac’s hand, then sat beside him. “I introduced myself as a non-Christian, the promoter of l’Amitiés Judéo-Chrétiennes, and a very deaf old man,” Isaac said. John talked for a while of his devotion to the Old Testament, told of his days as a Vatican diplomat in France, then asked where his caller was born. Here, Isaac felt a rambling chat with the Supreme Pontiff coming on and started worrying about how he would ever bring the conversation around to his subject. He told John that his actions had kindled great hopes in the people of the Old Testament, and added: “Is not the Pope himself, in his great kindness, responsible for it if we now expect more?” John laughed, and Isaac had a listener. The non-Christian beside the Pope said the Vatican should study anti- Semitism. John said he had been thinking about that from the beginning of their talk. “I asked if I might take away some sparks of hope,” Isaac recalled. John said he had a right to more than hope and then went on about the limits of sovereignty. “I am the head, but I must consult others too….This is not monarchie absolue!” To much of the world, it seemed to be monarchy benevolent. Because of John, a lot was happening fast in Catholicism and Jewry.

A few months before Isaac spelled out his case against the Gentiles, a Vatican Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity was set up by Pope John under Cardinal Bea. It was to press toward reunion with the churches Rome lost at the Reformation.

[Translation: The Catholic Church was now to become just another Protestant fake Christianity, and this is exactly what Vatican II was for.]

After Isaac left, John made it clear to the administrators in the Vatican’s Curia that a firm condemnation of Catholic anti-Semitism was to come from the council he had called.

[In other words, a denial of the truth. That the Jews had called for the murder of Jesus, and that Jews need to repent, convert and abandon the worship of their false God Satan. Yes, I know, you probably think this is hyperbole and I am a neo-Nazi denying the gas chambers, but no… look it up. The Jews actually worship the God of this world, which is Satan, not the Christian (i.e. Catholic) God of the Trinity]

To John, the German Cardinal seemed the right legislative whip for the job, even if his Christian Unity secretariat seemed a vexing address to work from.

By then, there was a fair amount of talk passing between the Vatican Council offices and Jewish groups, and both the American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith were heard loud and clear in Rome. Rabbi Abraham J. Heschel of New York’s Jewish Theological Seminary, who first knew of Bea in Berlin 30 years ago, met with the Cardinal in Rome.

[Just another coincidental acquaintance I am sure, not studied and conscious infiltration at all, right?]

Bea had already read the American Jewish Committee’s The Image of the Jews in Catholic Teaching. It was followed by another AJC paper, the 23-page study, Anti-Jewish Elements in Catholic Liturgy. Speaking for the AJC, Heschel said he hoped the Vatican Council would purge Catholic teaching of all suggestions that the Jews were a cursed race.

[And yet they are. Either you read and believe the Bible, or you’re a Churchian 1 ]

And in doing that, Heschel felt, the Council should in no way exhort Jews to become Christians.

[A fully protestant/Demonic attitude, of course. Becoming a Catholic is the only way anyone enters heaven. Regardless of if you personally believe or agree with that, it’s Catholic dogma, so saying we should not exhort people to become Catholics means you wish to abandon them to their fate in Hell. Personally I am fine with that, but making that a Church general rule clearly goes against good Christian ethics.]

About the same time, Israel’s Dr. Nahum Goldmann, head of the World Conference of Jewish Organizations, whose members ranged in creed from the most orthodox to liberal, pressed its aspirations on the Pope. B’nai B’rith wanted the Catholics to delete all language from the Church services that could even seem anti-Semitic. Not then, nor in any time to come, would that be a simple thing to do.

[What kind of person wants to hide, change and cover up the factual events of history? Honest people? Or liars, the guilty, and those who know they are responsible for evil?]

The Catholic liturgy, where it was drawn from writings of the early Church Fathers, could easily be edited.

[And this was in fact the very first target of Vatican II as espoused in several of its 16 documents]

But not the Gospels. Even if Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were better at evangelism than history, their writings were divinely inspired, according to Catholic dogma, and about as easy to alter as the center of the sun. That difficulty put both Catholics with the very best intentions and Jews with the deepest understanding of Catholicism in a theological fix.

[Yeah, the truth is troublesome that way, what with never really dying or disappearing forever. Ever. And eventually resurfacing like a… resurrected corpse.]

It also brought out the conservative opposition in the Church and, to some extent, Arab anxieties in the Mideast. The conservative charge against the Jews was that they were deicides, guilty of killing God in the human-divine person of Christ.

[Because they were.]

And to say now that they were not deicides was to say by indirection that Christ was not God, for the fact of the execution on Calvary stood unquestioned in Catholic theology.

[Yup. There’s that troublesome Truth with a capital T again.]

Yet the execution and the religion of those demanding it were the reasons Jews were “God-killers” and “Christ-killers” in the taunts of anti-Semites. Clearly, then, Catholic Scripture would be at issue if the council spoke about deicides and Jews. Wise and long-mitred heads around the Curia warned that the bishops in council should not touch this issue with ten-foot staffs. But still there was John XXIII, who said they must.

[I.e. Angelo Roncalli, the Freemson (Satanist) that had usurped the Papal Throne (from Giuseppe Siri, and did so twice, under threat of murder of Bishops in the East, rendering the whole election totally invalid, as if being a Satanist wasn’t enough to already do so in the first place)]

If the inviolability of Holy Writ was most of the problem in Rome, the rest was the Arab-Israeli war. Ben-Gurion’s Israel, in the Arab League’s view, like Mao’s China in the world out of Taiwan, really does not exist. Or, it only exists as a bone in the throat of Nasser. If the Council were to speak out for the Jews, then the spiritual order would seem political to Arab bishops. Next, there would be envoys passing in the night between the Vatican and Tel Aviv. This was a crisis the Arab League thought it might handle by diplomacy. Unlike Israel, its states already had some ambassadors to the papal court. They would bear the politest of reminders to the Holy See that some 2,756,000 Roman Catholics lived in Arab lands and mention the 420,000 Orthodox Catholics separated from Rome, whom the Papacy hoped to reclaim. Bishops of both cuts of Catholicism could be counted on to convey their interests to the Holy See. It was too soon for the threats. Instead, the Arabs importuned Rome to see that they were neither anti-Semitic nor anti-Jewish. Arabs, too, are Semites, they said, and among them lived thousands of Jewish refugees. Patriotic Arabs were just anti-Zionist because to them, Zionism was a plot to set a Judaic state in the center of Islam.

[And indeed Zionism is an evil and pernicious thing, pushed by the Synagogue of Satan, as our Lord, Jesus Christ, correctly identified what people today call “Jews” but are really Pharisees, Talmudians that worship Lucifer]

In Rome, the word from the Mideast and the conservatives was that a Jewish declaration would be inopportune. From the West, where 225,500 more Jews live in New York than in Israel, the word was that dropping the declaration would be a calamity. And into this impasse came the ingenuous bulk of John XXIII – not to settle the dispute but to enlarge it. Quite on his own, the Pope was toying with an idea, which the Roman Curia found grotesque, that non-Catholic faiths should send observers to the Council.

[And it is of course grotesque. The only way it makes sense is if in fact, as was the case, the intent is to destroy, poison, infiltrate, weaken and crumble the very foundations of Catholicism. Why would you invite enemies to your own religion? It’s the equivalent of asking for sewage to be added to the birthday ice-cream.]

The prospect of being invited caused no crisis among Protestants, but it plainly nonplussed the Jews. To attend suggested to some Jews that Christian theology concerned them. But to stay away when invited might suggest that the Jews did not really care whether Catholics came to grips with anti-Semitism.

When it was learned that Bea’s declaration, set for voting at the first Council session, carried a clear refutation of the decide charge, the World Jewish Congress let it be known around Rome that Dr. Haim Y. Vardi, an Israeli, would be an unofficial observer at the Council. The two reports may not have been related, but still they seemed to be.

[What odds would you bet on that they were not related? I’m going with negative 1000%]

Because of them, other reports —louder ones— were heard. The Arabs complained to the Holy See. The Holy See said no Israeli had been invited. The Israelis denied then that an observer had been named. The Jews in New York thought an American should observe. In Rome, it all ended up with a jiggering of the agenda to make sure that the declaration would not come to the Council floor that session. Still, for the bishops, there was quite a bit of supplementary reading on Jews. Some agency close enough to the Vatican to have the addresses in Rome of the Council’s 2,200 visiting cardinals and bishops, supplied each with a 900-page book, Il Complotto contro la Chiesa (The Plot Against the Church) In it, among reams of scurrility, was a kind of fetching shred of truth. Its claim that the Church was being infiltrated by Jews would intrigue anti-Semites. For, in fact, ordained Jews around Rome working on the Jewish declaration included Father Baum, as well as Msgr. John Oesterreicher, on Bea’s staff at the Secretariat. Bea, himself, according to the Cairo daily, Al Gomhuria, was a Jew named Behar.

[Far from being “scurrilous” The Plot Against the Church reveals many hidden facts about the infiltration that took place since the 1700s at least, and that was in any case confirmed by a repentant Bella Dodd in her own book – School of Darkness . ]

Neither Baum nor Oesterreicher was with Bea in the late afternoon on March 31, 1963, when a limousine was waiting for him outside the Hotel Plaza in New York. The ride ended about six blocks away, outside the offices of the American Jewish Committee. There, a latter-day Sanhedrin was waiting to greet the head of the Secretariat for Christian Unity. The gathering was kept secret from the press.

[Because good, holy Catholic clergy always meets in secret with the sworn enemies of the Church, of course… (eyeroll)]

Bea wanted neither the Holy See nor the Arab League to know he was there to take questions the Jews wanted to hear answered. “I am not authorized to speak officially,” he told them. “I can, therefore, speak only of what, in my opinion, could be effected, indeed, should be effected, by the Council.” Then, he spelled out the problem. “In round terms” he said, “the Jews are accused of being guilty of deicide, and on them is supposed to lie a curse.” He countered both charges. Because even in the accounts of the Evangelists, only the leaders of the Jews then in Jerusalem and a very small group of followers shouted for the death sentence on Jesus, all those absent and the generations of Jews unborn were not implicated in deicide in any way, Bea said.

[By that logic original sin too can’t exist. And yet, it is dogmatic in Catholicism, and a quick glance around yourself should confirm that original sin is indeed a thing in humanity. A quick glance at how the wider Jewish tribe behaves should be even more obvious (*cough* genocide anyone? *cough* bombing random countries all around them to start a major war so the US “has” to help them *cough*)]

As to the curse, it could not condemn the crucifiers anyway, the Cardinal reasoned, because Christ’s dying words were a prayer for their pardon.

[Forgiveness requires repentance. Even children know this. Which is why the Bible is very clear that most will actually end up in Hell even though they profess to be “Christians”, and Jesus will tell them “I knew you not”.]

The Rabbis in the room wanted to know then if the declaration would specify deicide, the curse and the rejection of the Jewish people by God as errors in Christian teaching. Implicit in their question was the most touchy problem of the New Testament. Bea’s answer was oblique. He cautioned his listeners that an unwieldy assemblage of bishops could not possibly get down to details, could only set guidelines, and hope not to make the complex seem simple. “Actually,” he went on, “it is wrong to seek the chief cause of anti- Semitism in purely religious sources – in the Gospel accounts, for example. These religious causes, in so far as they are adduced (often they are not), are often merely an excuse and a veil to cover over other more operative reasons for enmity.” Cardinal and rabbis joined in a toast with sherry after the talk, and one asked the prelate about Monsignor Oesterreicher, whom many Jews regard as too missionary with them. “You know, Eminence,” a Jewish reporter once told Bea, “Jews do not regard Jewish converts as their best friends.” Bea answered gravely, “Not our Jews.”

[Implying that the Jewish “converts” were in fact only pretend converts, or what the Inquisition called Marranos. Jews that pretended to be converted so they could infiltrate Catholic structures and destroy, cause harm and/or make deals with Muslim invaders during time of the Reconquista of Spain.]

Not long after that, the Rolf Hochhuth play The Deputy opened, to depict Pius XII as the Vicar of Christ who fell silent while Hitler went to The Final Solution.

[A hit piece like few hit pieces were ever made if you actually look at the factual events and compare them to the propaganda.]

From the pages of the Jesuit magazine America, Oesterreicher talked straight at the AJC and B’nai B’rith. “Jewish human- relations agencies,” he wrote, “will have to speak out against The Deputy in unmistakable terms. Otherwise they will defeat their own purpose.” In the Table of London, Giovanni Battista Montini, the archbishop of Milan, wrote an attack on the play as a defense of the Pope, whose secretary he had been. A few months later, Pope John XXIII was dead, and Montini became Pope Paul VI.

[Pay attention here. This is the same tactic the Jews have used since literally Old Testament times. Which is to play (and pay) both sides of the coin, so as to ensure victory every time. The present day gatekeepers that keep calling Israel the greatest ally and the fake “Catholic” like Milo Yannopoulos and the now exposed Gary Voris, or the pedophile adjacent Nicholas Fuentes, all homosexuals pretending at Catholicism for the masses. The idea is to recruit all the skeptics (usually labelled as “the right” so as to effectively neuter them, be it Tommy Robinson in England (funded by a large Jewish League) the Alex Jones of this world, (inevitably mixing half-truths with absurdism so as to discredit the whole argument in toto, and on and on and on. The absence of any real and truthful reality for the masses keeps them confused, docile, stunned, and harmless. A thousand actual Catholic crusaders could probably remove all the Davos attendees in one fell swoop and majorly improve the world’s lot. The pedovores in charge know this and plan accordingly by fostering mass laziness, bad nutrition, vanishing attention spans, unfastening bread and enstupidising circuses and if all else fails, a sudden death.]

At the second session of the Council, in the fall of 1963, the Jewish declaration came to the bishops as Chapter 4 of the larger declaration On Ecumenism. The Chapter 5 behind it was the equally troublesome declaration on religious liberty. Like riders to bills in congress, each of the disputed chapters was a wayward caboose hooked to the new ecumenical train. Near the end of the session, when On Ecumenism came up for a vote, the Council moderators decided the voting should cover only the first three chapters. That switched the cabooses to a siding and averted a lot of clatter in a council trying hard to be ecumenical. Voting on the Jews and religious liberty would follow soon, the bishops were promised. And while waiting around, they could read The Jews and the Council in the Light of Scripture and Tradition which was shorter, but more scurrilous than Il Complotto. But the second session ended without the vote on the Jews or religious liberty, and on a distinctly sour note, despite the Pope’s announced visit to the Holy Land. That pilgrimage would take up a lot of newsprint, but still leave room for questions about votes that vanished. “Something had happened behind the scenes,” the voice of the National Catholic Welfare Conference wrote.” [It is] one of the mysteries of the second session.”

[Ye-ees…a “mystery” a five year-old can figure out.]

Two very concerned Jewish gentlemen who had to reflect hard on such mysteries were 59-year-old Joseph Lichten of B’nai B’rith’s Anti-Defamation League in New York, and Zachariah Shuster, 63, of the American Jewish Committee. Lichten, who lost his parents, wife and daughter in Buchenwald, and Shuster, who also lost some of his closest relatives, had been talking with bishops and their staff men in Rome. The two lobbyists were not, however, seeing a lot of one another over vin rosso around St. Peter’s. The strongest possible Jewish declaration was their common cause, but each wanted his home office to have credit for it.

[Brings to mind the phrase “no honour among thieves” but then such is the case with all people who are of a nefarious bent.]

That is, of course, if the declaration was really strong. But until then, each would offer himself to the American hierarchs as the best barometer in Rome of Jewish sentiment back home.

To find out how the Council was going, many U.S. bishops in Rome depended on what they read in the New York Times. And so did the AJC and B’nai B’rith. That paper was the place to make points. Lichten thought Shuster was a genius at getting space in it, but less than deeply instructed in theology. Which is just about the way Shuster saw Lichten. Neither had much time for Frith Becker. Becker was in Rome for the World Jewish Congress, as its spokesman who sought no publicity and got little. The WJC, according to Becker, was interested in the Council, but not in trying to shape it. “We don’t have the American outlook,” he said, “on the importance of getting into print.”

Getting into print was even beginning to look good to the Vatican. Yet an expert at the public relations craft would say the Holy See showed inexperience in the Holy Land. When Paul prayed with the bearded Orthodox Patriarch Athenagora in the Jordanian sector, the visit looked very good.

[This by the way is a direct heresy. It is Catholic dogma that a Catholic is NOT to pray with members of a different faith.]

Yet when he crossed over to Israel, he had cutting words about the author of The Deputy and a conversionist sermon for the Jews. His stay was so short that he never publicly uttered the name of the young country he was visiting in. Vaticanlogists studying his moves thought they saw lessened hope for the declaration on the Jews.

[This is more of the same “pretend to be Catholic” thing to appease people who actually pay attention and see the stench of sulphur when it appears tendril like near anything that was supposed to be actually Catholic.]

Things looked better at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York. There, at a Beth Israel Hospital anniversary, guests learned that, years earlier, Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver had told Cardinal Francis Spellman of Israel’s efforts to get a seat in the United Nations. To help, Spellman said he would call on South American governments and share with them his fond wish that Israel be admitted. About the same time, il Papa americana told an AJC meeting it was “absurd to maintain that there is some kind of continuing guilt.” In Pittsburgh, Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum of the AJC spoke to the Catholic Press Association about the deicide charge, and the editorial response was abundant. In Rome, six AJC members had an audience with the Pope, and one of them, Mrs. Leonard M. Sperry, had just endowed the Sperry Center for Intergroup Cooperation at Pro Deo University in the Holy City. The Pope told his callers he agreed with all Cardinal Spellman had said about Jewish guilt. Vaticanologists could not help but reverse their reading and see a roseate future for the declaration.

[As usual the fomenting of a “committee” is one of the surest indications that what is in fact taking place is underhanded, secret, subversive and faceless tyrannical and evil scheming.]

Then came the New York Times. On June 12, 1964, it reported that the denial of deicide had been cut from the latest draft of the declaration. At the Secretariat for Christian Unity, a spokesman said only that the text had been made stronger. But that is not the way most Jews read it, nor a great many Catholics. Before the Council met and while the text was still sub secreto, whole sections of it turned up one morning in the New York Herald Tribune. No mention of the deicide charge was to be found. Instead, there was a clear call for the ecumenical spirit to extend itself because “ the union of the Jewish people with the Church is a part of the Christian hope.”

[In other words, the lie had been pushed through officially now. By subterfuge, secret meetings and collusion in darkness.]

Among the few Jews who did not mind reading that were Lichten and Shuster. They could look at it professionally. It read, say , much better over coffee in a morning paper than it would if the Pope were promulgating it as Catholic teaching. On other Jews, its effect was galvanic. Their disappointment set off indignation among some American bishops, and Lichten and Shuster appreciated their concern. Chances that a deicideless declaration, with a built-in conversion clause, would ever get by the American bishops and cardinals at the Council were what a couple of good lobbyists might call slim.

[What is being discussed here is a part of the Holy Mass that remains only in ACTUAL Catholic Masses, which today can be found only in Non-Una Cum, Totalist, Sedevacantist Catholic chapels and Masses]

About two weeks before that, Msgr. George Higgins of the National Catholic Welfare Conference in Washington, D.C., helped arrange a papal audience for UN Ambassador Arthur J. Goldberg, who was a Supreme Court Justice at the time. Rabbi Heschel briefed Goldberg before the Justice and the Pope discussed the declaration. Cardinal Richard Cushing, in Boston, wanted to help too. Through his aide in Rome, the Cardinal set up an audience with the Pope for Heschel, whose apprehensions had reason to exceed Cushing’s. With the AJC’s Shuster beside him, Heschel talked hard about deicide and guilt, and asked the Pontiff to press for a declaration in which Catholics would be forbidden to proselytize Jews.

[Notice how Jews always appeal to “laws” that forbid criticising them in any way. In America they are passing laws making it a crime to boycott Israel. In Europe, denying the Holocaust in most ways is considered a crime that can result in jail time. And yet there is no crime in denying the Jews killed over 50 million people in the Russian revolution. Weird that eh?]

Paul, somewhat affronted, would in no way agree. Shuster, somewhat chagrined, disassociated himself gingerly from Heschel by switching to French, which the Pope speaks but the Rabbi does not. All agree that the audience did not end as cordially as it began. Only Heschel and a few others think it did good. He invited notice in an Israeli paper that the declaration’s next text had emerged free of conversionary tone. To the AJC, that interview was one more irritant. The Rabbi’s audience with Paul in the Vatican, like Bea’s meeting with the AJC in New York, was granted on the condition that it would be kept secret. It was undercover summit conferences of that sort that led conservatives to claim that American Jews were the new powers behind the Church.

[Which was true, but given the Jews (Freemasons) created the entire USA by financing the American revolution with French money (for which Louis and Marie lost their heads) and instilled in it a wholly Talmudic “legal” system predicated on loopholes and wealth, the Americans, who are today the poodle on a leash for Israel, hardly have a pulpit from which to preach]

But on the floor of the Council, things looked even worse to the conservatives. There, it seemed to them as if Catholic bishops were working for the Jews. At issue was the weakened text. The cardinals from St. Louis and Chicago, Joseph Ritter and the late Albert Meyer, demanded a return to the strong one. Cushing said the deicide denial would have to be put back. Bishop Steven Leven of San Antonio called for clearing the text of conversionary pleas and , unknowingly, uttered a prophetic view about deicide. “We must tear this word out of the Christian vocabulary,” he said, “so that it may never again be used against the Jews.”

[Please take note of the LIE: The intent here is to associate the real, factual, historical deicide the Jews are guilty of with unspecified “persecution” ostensibly during the Second World War. The intent here is to associate the Catholic Church with the Second World War and the “holocaust”. There is no mention of the financial incentives and real support for Hitler that Wall Street produced. The very real perversions the Jews were pushing in the Weimar Republic with utterly degenerate pornography (did you know Pornhub today is owned by a Rabbi?), transgenderism (it was such books the Nazis burned), not to mention the usury and general underhanded practices they performed in public office, which is why they were banned from it. Nope, none of those things come up. Apparently Jews were persecuted throughout the ages not for murdering little gentile children and drinking there blood, poisoning wells, or usury and other unethical financial practices. Nope, nope, nope, the poor dears are always blameless victims of just catholic racism.]

All that talk brought out the Arab bishops. They argued that a declaration favoring Jews would expose Catholics to persecution as long as Arabs fought Israelis. Deicide, inherited guilt and conversionary locutions seemed like so many debating points to most Arabs. They wanted no declaration at all, they kept saying, because it would be put to political use against them. Their allies in this holy war were conservative Italians, Spaniards and South Americans.

[Aka actual Catholics]

They saw the structure of the faith being shaken by theological liberals who thought Church teaching could change. To the conservatives, this was near-heresy, and to the liberals, it was pure faith.

[It’s not “near” heresy. It is heresy pure and simple. Divine law does not change. Doing so is the equivalent of saying that “eventually” with great progress, say, raping a baby will be perfectly acceptable. No. Divine truth never changes. Two plus two will always be four. Always. Forever. Anyone who does not understand this basic level of reality is simply not fit to vote, have a valid opinion about pretty much anything, or really be left in charge of anything at all.]

Beyond faith, the liberals had the votes, and sent the declaration back to its Secretariat for more strength. While it was out for redrafting again, the conservatives wanted it flattened into one paragraph in the Constitution of the Church. But when the declaration reappeared at the third session’s end, it was in a wholly new document called The Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions. In that setting, the bishops approved it with a 1,770 to 185 vote. There was considerable joy among Jews in the United States because their declaration had finally come out.

[Note the numbers. Of 1955 Bishops, less than 10% kept the Catholic faith. Proving Pope Pius X, way back at the start of the 1900s was clearly correct in warning about the then already pervasive and deep infiltration of the Church.]

In fact, it had not. The vote had been an endorsement only for the general substance of the text. But because votes with qualifications were accepted (placet iuxta modum is the Latin term for “yes, but with this modification”), the time between the third session and the fourth – just finished – would be spent fitting in the modifying modi, or those most of the 31 voting members of the Secretariat thought acceptable. By Council rules, modi could qualify or nuance the language, but they could not change the substance of the text. But then, what substance is or is not had always kept philosophers on edge. And theologians have had trouble with it too.

[No. Liars do this. Catholic ex-cathedra pronouncements and teachings have always been crystal clear. It is only since Vatican II that obfuscation, ambiguity, sophism, and lies have been the standard modus operandi of the “Church”.]

But first there were less recondite troubles to face. In Segni, near Rome, Bishop Luigi Carli wrote in the February, 1965 issue of his diocesan magazine that the Jews of Christ’s time and their descendants down to the present were collectively guilty of Christ’s death. A few weeks later, on Passion Sunday, at an outdoor Mass in Rome, Pope Paul talked of the Crucifixion and the Jews’ heavy part in it. Rome’s chief rabbi, Elio Toaff, said in saddened reply that in “even the most qualified Catholic personalities, the imminence of Easter causes prejudices to reemerge.”

[Slowly, slowly, with apparent turnings, is the frog boiled alive. As always.]

On April 25, 1965, the New York Times correspondent in Rome, Robert C. Doty, upset just about everybody. The Jewish declaration was in trouble was the gist of his story reporting that the Pope had turned it over to four consultants to clear it of its contradictions to Scripture and make it less objectionable to Arabs. It was about as refuted as a Times story ever gets. When Cardinal Bea arrived in New York three days later, he had his priest- secretary deny Doty’s story by saying that his Secretariat for Christian Unity still had full control of the Jewish declaration. Then came an apologia for Paul’s sermon. “Keep in mind that the Pope was speaking to ordinary and simple faithful people – not before a learned body,” the priest said. As to the anti- Semitic Bishop of Segni, the Cardinal’s man said that Carli’s views were definitely not those of the Secretariat. Morris B. Abram of the AJC was at the airport to greet Bea and found his secretary’s views on that reassuring.

[Again, notice the bait and switch… bread and circus in public to the masses, and the very opposite thing behind secret doors that end up producing the “official” and totally corrupt agenda. The same playbook is being used on everything from Digital ID to tax “reform” to the whole Covid scamdemic and on, and on, and on. And lazy, brainwashed, tired, badly nourished norms, with the attention spans of goldfish with Alzheimer, just keep swallowing it all, in zombified silence, and total lack of action.]

In Rome a few days later, some fraction of the Secretariat met to vote on the bishops’ suggested modi. Among them were a few borne down from the fourth floor of the Vatican over the signature of the Bishop of Rome. It is not known for certain whether that special bishop urged that the “guilty of deicide” denial be cut. But the alternate possibility that the phrase would have been cut, if he had wanted it kept, is not pondered on much any more. Accounts of the Secretariat’s struggles over deicide agree that it was a very close vote after a long day’s debate. After deicide went out, there remained the Bishop of Rome’s suggestion that the clause beginning “deplores, indeed condemns, hatred and persecution of Jews” might read better with “indeed condemns” left out. That would leave hatred and persecution of Jews still “deplored.” The suggestion stirred no debate and was quickly accepted by vote. It was late, and nobody cared to fuss any more about little things.

[Please note the once more ever-present subterfuge. It has never been Catholic dogma to HATE the Jews. Nor to PERSECUTE them. Merely to recognise them for what they are and exhort them to change for the better by converting. That’s it. The only people Catholics are told to go ahead and hate are the wicked. And while one can certainly accuse the Jews as a whole to pretty much BE wicked, as Catholics, the charge en masse is only applied to those that actually follow a wicked way. One could argue that because the Talmud explicitly says that raping a child under three is not a crime, anyone that professes to be a follower of the Talmud is, by definition, evil. It is a reasonable assumption after all. I have no problem with it. However, Catholic charity would —generally speaking— view it that while the practice of Talmudians is abhorrent, evil, and definitely wicked, one can see how some “nominal” Jews, might be ignorant of the specifics, being cultural “jews” much like a Novus Ordo adhering layman is “catholic”. So, this declaration does absolutely nothing new except insert what was already Catholic thought; but in doing so, appears to present as if the opposite of what is now specified was previously the practice. Which is, of course, a lie. You see how subtly they manage public perception.]

That meeting was from May 9 to 15, and during that week, the New York Times had a story every other day from the Vatican. On May 8, the Secretariat denied again that outsiders were taking a hand in the Jewish declaration.

[In other words he flat outright lied.]

On the 11th, President Charles Helou of Lebanon, an Arab Maronite Catholic, had an audience with the Pope. On the 12th, the Vatican Press Office announced that the Jewish declaration remained unchanged. If that was to reassure Jews, it came across as a Press Office protesting too much. On the 15th, the Secretariat closed its meeting, and the bishops went their separate ways, some sad, some satisfied, all with lips sealed. A few may have wondered if something out of order had happened and if, despite Council rules, a Council document had been substantially changed between sessions.

The Times persisted in making trouble. On June 20, under Doty’s by- line, was the report that the declaration was “under study” and might be dropped altogether. On June 22, Doty filed a story amounting to a self-directed punch in the nose. Commenting to Doty on his own earlier report, a source close to Bea said it was “so deprived of any basis that it doesn’t even deserve a denial.” For those who have raised refutations to a fine art, that was a denial to be proud of, because it was precisely true while completely misleading. Doty had written that the declaration was under study when in fact, the study was finished, the damage was done, and there existed what many regard as a substantially new declaration on the Jews.

[Once again note the sophism; subtle and very poisonous.]

In Geneva, Dr. Willem Visser ‘tHooft, head of the World Council of Churches, told two American priests that, if the reports were true, the ecumenical movement would be slowed. His sentiments were not kept secret from the U.S. hierarchy. Nor was the AJC saddened into inactivity. Rabbi Tanenbaum plied Monsignor Higgins with press clippings from appalled Jewish editors. Higgins conveyed his fears to Cardinal Cushing, and the Boston prelate made polite inquiry to the Bishop of Rome. In Germany, a group for Jewish-Christian amity sent a letter to the bishops claiming, “There is now prevailing a crisis of confidence vis-à-vis the Catholic Church.” At the Times, there had never been a crisis of confidence vis-à-vis its reporting from Rome, but if there had been one, it would have passed on September 10. In his story under the headline VATICAN DRAFT EXONERATING JEWS REVISED TO OMIT WORD “DEICIDE,” Doty allowed no Times reader to think he had pried into Vatican secrets. He was pleased to credit as his source, “an authorized leak by the Vatican.”

Similar stories in the Times foretold Council failings before they happened. Most of these were substantiated in magazine pieces and books published later, though some had traces of special pleading. The American Jewish Committee’s intellectual monthly, Commentary, had offered a most bleak report on the Council and the Jews by the pseudonymous F. E. Cartus. In a footnote, the author referred the reader to a confirming account in The Pilgrim , a 281-page book by the pseudonymous Michael Serafian. Later, in Harper’s magazine, Cartus, even more dour, added to the doubts on the Jewish text. To buttress his case, he recast Pilgrim passages and cited Council accounts in Time, whose Rome correspondent had surfaced for by-line status as author of a notably good book on the Council. At the time, both Time and the New York Times were glad to have an inside tipster. Just for the journalistic fun of it, the inside man’s revelations were signed “Pushkin,” when slipped under some correspondents’ doors.

[Notice the vast network of “official” mass media “news” leaks, and shaping of public perception. And this at a time when the mass media was still seen as a bastion of truth and objectivity, not exposed as it is today as a bunch of paid propagandists with morals that would make a murderous crack-whore blush in shame.]

But readers were served no rewritten Pushkin on the Council’s last sessions. The cassock had come off the double agent who could never turn down work. Pushkin, it turned out, was Michael Serafian in book length, F.E. Cartus for the magazines, and a translator in the Secretariat for Christian Unity, while keeping up a warm friendship with the AJC. At the time, Pushkin-Serafian-Cartus was living in the Biblical Institute, where he had been known well since his ordination in 1954, though he will be known here as Timothy Fitzharris O’Boyle, S.J. For the journalists, the young priest’s inside tips and tactical leaks checked out so well that he could not resist gilding them every now and then with a flourish of creative writing. And an imprecision or two could even be charged off to exhaustion in his case. He was known to be working on a book at a young married couple’s flat. The book finally got finished, but so did half of the friendship. Father Fitzharris-O’Boyle knew it was time for a forced march before his religious superior could inquire too closely into the reasons for that crisis in camaraderie. He left Rome then, sure that he could be of no more use locally.

[In case you doubted that there was pervasive infiltration by pretend-Catholics into the clergy, I’d say this should be rather conclusive. Adulterous spies acting as “priests” were not a unique feature in the Church since the late 1700s, when the Illuminati in their various guises and names began a concerted and multi-generational effort of Church assault in earnest.]

Apart from his taste for pseudonyms, fair ladies, reports on the nonexistent and perhaps a real jester’s genius for footnotes, Fitzharris-O’Boyle was good at his job in the Secretariat, valuable to the AJC and is still thought of by many around Rome as a kind of genuine savior in the diaspora. Without him, the Jewish declaration might well have gone under early, for it was Fitzharris-O’Boyle who best helped the press harass the Romans wanting to scuttle it. The man has a lot of priests’ prayers.

Other years, Fitzharris-O’Boyle was around Rome when the declaration needed help. At Vatican II’s fourth and last session, there was no help in sight. And things were happening very fast. The text came out weakened, as the Times said it would. Then, the Pope took off for the UN, where his jamais plus la guerre speech was a triumph. After that, he greeted the president of the AJC in an East Side church. That looked good for the cause. Then, at the Yankee Stadium Mass, the Pope’s lector intoned a text beginning “for fear of the Jews.” And on TV that sounded quite astonishing. Everywhere, there were speeches on the rises and falls of the Jewish declaration, many of them preparing for a final letdown. Lichten’s executive vice-president, Rabbi Jay Kaufman, had told audiences of his own puzzlement “as the fate of the section on Jews is shuttled between momentary declaration and certain confutation, like a sparrow caught in a clerical badminton game.” Shuster could hear about the same from the AJC. He could also hear the opposition. Not content with a weakened declaration, it again wanted the total victory of no declaration at all. For that, the Arabs’ last words were “respectfully submitted” in a 28-page memorandum calling on the he bishops to save the faith from “communism and atheism and the Jewish-Communist alliance.”

[Even the Arabs, no fans of Catholicism could see the facts as they were.]

In Rome, the bishops’ vote was set for October 14, and to Lichten and Shuster, the prospects of anything better looked almost hopeless. Priests had slipped each a copy of the Secretariat’s secret replies to the modifications the bishops wanted. The modi made disconsolate reading. In the old text, the Jewish origin of Catholicism was noted in a paragraph, beginning, “In truth, with a grateful heart, the Church of Christ acknowledges…” In the modi sent to the Secretariat, two bishops (but which two?) suggested that “with a grateful heart” be deleted. It could, they feared, be understood to mean that Catholics were required to give thanks to the Jews of today. “The suggestion is accepted,” the Secretariat decided. The replies went that way for most of 16 pages. Through all of them, few reasons were advanced for taking the warmth out of the old text and making the new one more legal than humane.

[Always the intent is to stir a great hullabaloo, a great chaos, a babble of voices, and then, slip in unseen and secretly tiny alterations that over time dilute, pervert and corrupt the truth. This is always the way, so that eventually a final deluge of lies becomes the “new normal” and no one can easily see the origin of it all or how it happened.]

When Shuster and Lichten had finished reading, there were telephone calls to be made to the AJC and B’nai B’rith in New York. But these were not much help at either end. It was Higgins who first tried convincing two disheartened lobbyists to settle for what they would get. Yet for a day or two, Bishop Leven of San Antonio gave them hope. He thought the new statement was so weakened that the American bishops should vote en bloc against it. If followed, the tactic would have added a few hundred negative votes to the Arab-conservative side and marked the Council as so split that the Pope might not promulgate anything. The protest-vote tactic was soon abandoned. Lichten’s remorse lasted longer. He sent telegrams to about 25 bishops he thought could still help retrieve the strong text. But again, it was Higgins who quietly told him to give up. “Look, Joe,” the priest with the labor-lawyer manner told Lichten, “I understand your disappointment. I’m disappointed too.” Then, he went off to console Shuster.

In his own room, where Higgins thinks he had Lichten and Shuster together for their first joint appearance in Rome, the priest could sound as if he were putting it straight to company men looking for a square shake from the union. “If you two give New York the impression you can get a better text, you are crazy,” he told them. “Lay all your cards on the table. It’s just insane to think by some pressures here or newspaper articles back in New York, you can work a miracle in the Council. You are not going to work it, and they will think you fell down on the job.”

Lichten remembers more. “Higgins said, ‘Think how much harm can be done, Joe, if we allow these changes to erect barriers in the path we have taken for such a long time. And this may happen if your people, and mine, don’t respond to the positive aspects.’ That was the psychological turning point for me,” Lichten said. Shuster was still unreconciled, and he can remember the day well. “I had to break my head and heart,” he said, “to think what should be done. I went through a crisis, but I was convinced by Higgins. The loss of deicide, frankly, I did not consider a catastrophe. But ‘deplore’ for ‘condemn’ is another thing. When I step on your toes, you deplore what I do. But massacre? Do you deplore massacre?”

[Notice here the admission: they have slowly worked towards this for a “long time”. If you think this article is the whole of it you might think that means a few years, from 1958 or so to 1965. But you would be wrong. The Freemasons (Satanists under many names) began the destruction of the royal houses prior to and during the First World War, then accelerated that during and immediately after the Second World War, and the reason was that since the time of Charlemagne, for about a thousand years or so, royalty was seen as having been appointed by God. Not in the sense that a King or Queen was necessarily a good or even Catholic person, but in the sense that for whatever reason, Divine Providence had placed them on the throne. What they did with it, if they behaved well or abominably to their subjects was a matter of the individual’s free will, piety, honour and so on, but in any case, the average person saw a King or Queen as an authority that God had placed there, whether good or bad was the doing of the King or Queen in question, but the authority of them was not questioned. Destroying this belief was paramount to then be able to attack the Church, since the kings and Emperors have always been the lay protectors of the faith.]

A differing view was taken by Abbé René Laurentin, a Council staff man who wrote to all the bishops with a last-minute appeal to conscience. Of itself, the loss of the deicide denial would not have mattered to Laurentin either, if there would never be anti-Semitism in the world again. But since history invites pessimism in this, Laurentin asked the bishops to suppose that genocide might recur. “Then, the Council and the Church will be accused,” he contended, “of having left dormant the emotional root of anti-Semitism which is the theme of deicide.”

[Isn’t it astonishing how supposedly it was the Catholic remembering of the factual Deicide of the Jews that always had them “persecuted”. One wonders how this applies to the hundreds of times they were expelled from whole regions in the times before Christ. Or indeed all the other times, since it was never the main issue that was ever used to expel Jews from anywhere, but rather their other multiple and horrid behaviours that were and have always been the direct cause of it.]

Bishop Leven had wanted the word deicide torn out of the Christian vocabulary when he argued a year earlier for the stronger text. Now, the Secretariat had even torn it out of the declaration, and proscribed it from the Christian vocabulary so abruptly that even the proscription itself was suppressed. “With difficulty, one escapes the impression,’ Laurentin wrote, “that these arguments owe something to artifice.”

Before the vote in St. Peter’s, Cardinal Bea spoke to the assembled bishops. He said his Secretariat had received their modi “with grateful heart” – and the words just happened to be the very first ones deleted by his Secretariat’s vote from the new version. A year earlier, Bea had argued for getting the deicide denial into the text, and now he was defending its removal. He spoke without zeal, as if he, too, knew he was asking the bishops for less than Jules Isaac and John XXIII might have wanted. Exactly 250 bishops voted against the declaration, while 1,763 supported it. Through much of the U.S. and Europe, the press minutes later made the complex simple with headlines reading VATICAN PARDONS JEWS, JEWS NOT GUILTY or JEWS EXONERATED IN ROME.

[And so, Catholicism was further corrupted by the fake “Catholics” pretending to be Popes, their nefarious Freemasonic colleagues already entrenched in the Vatican and all the infiltrators at every level of the Church.]

Glowing statements came from spokesmen of the AJC and B’nai B’rith, but each had a note of disappointment that the strong declaration had been diluted. Bea’s friend Heschel was the harshest and called the Council’s failure to deal with deicide “an act of paying homage to Satan.” Later on, when calm, he was just saddened. “my old friend, the Jesuit priest Gus Weigel, spent one of the last nights of his life in this room,” Heschel said. “I asked him whether he thought it would really be ad majorem Dei gloriam if there were no more synagogues, no more Seder dinners and no more prayers said in Hebrew?” The question was rhetorical, and Weigel has since gone to his grave.

[I personally think it would be bliss. If all the Jews honestly converted to actual Catholicism (along with all the Novus Ordo laypeople, ejected permanently all the fake clergy as the non-Catholics and arch-heretics they all are, the world would transform in a matter of days into something that we can scarcely imagine it would be so absent of much of the global conflicts now perpetrated for reasons few gentiles understand at all and even less support, but are inevitably driven by Talmudic goals.]

Other comments ranged from the elated to the satiric. Dr. William Wexler of the World Conference of Jewish Organizations tried for precision. “The true significance of the Ecumenical Council’s statement will be determined by the practical effects it has on those to whom it is addressed,” he said. Harry Golden of the Carolina Israelite called for a Jewish Ecumenical council in Jerusalem to issue a Jewish declaration on Christians.

With his needling retort, the columnist was reflecting a view popular in the U.S. that some kind of forgiveness had been granted the Jews. The notion was both started and sustained by the press, but there was no basis for it in the declaration. What led quite understandably to it, however, was the open wrangling around the Council that had made the Jews seem on trial for four years. If the accused did not quite feel cleared when the verdict was in, it was because the jury was out far too long.

[And yet, over the next 60 years, this has led to a massive Churchian movement, which exists only in America where the jews are almost venerated as the “older brothers in Christ” an utter abomination as is the phrase “Judeo-Christian” which is theologically the equivalent of the culinary “Sewage-Vanilla” for ice-cream. Because that is what it is when you accept Pharisees, that is, literal Satanists as your “brothers in Christ”.]

It was out for reasons politicians understand but few thought relevant to religion. The present head of the Holy See, like the top man in the White House, believed deeply in pressing for a consensus when any touchy issue was put to a Council vote. By the principle of collegiality, in which all bishops help govern the whole Church, any real issue divided the college of bishops into progressives and conservatives. Reconciling them was the Pope’s job. For this rub in the collegial process, the papal remedy, whether persuaded or imposed, played some hob with the law of contradiction. When one faction said Scripture alone was the source of Church teaching, the other held for the two sources of Scripture and Tradition. To bridge that break, the declaration was rewritten with Pauline touches to reaffirm the two-source teaching while allowing that the other merited study. When opponents of religious liberty said it would fly against the teaching that Catholicism is the One True Church, a similar solution trickled down from the Vatican’s fourth floor. Religious liberty now starts with the One True Church teaching, which, according to some satisfied conservatives, contradicts the text that follows.

The Jewish issue was an even more troublesome one for a consensus- maker. Those who saw a dichotomy in the declaration could find it in the New Testament, too, where all are agreed it will stay. But to what extent was that issue complicated by the politics of the Arabs? In Israel, there is the feeling since the vote, and in Mideast journals there is considerable evidence for it, that the masses of Arab Christians were more indifferent to dispute then the Scriptural conservatives would like known. By the Newtonian laws of political motion, pressure begets counterpressure more often than lobbyists like to admit. And one of the hypotheses that B’nai B’rith and the AJC must ponder is that much Arab resistance and some theological intransigence were creatures of Jewish lobbying. There was anxiety all along about that, and Nahum Goldmann cautioned Jews early to “not raise the issue with too much intensity.” Some did not. After the vote, when Fritz Becker, the WJC’s silent man, admitted he once called on Bea at home, he said the declaration was not mentioned. “We just talked, the Cardinal and I,” Becker said, “about the advantages of not talking.”

There are Catholics close to what went on in Rome who think that Jewish energy did harm. Higgins, the social-action priest from Washington, D.C., is not one of them. If it had not been for the lobbying, he felt, the declaration would have been tabled. But in his usual gruff way, Cardinal Cushing said that the only people who could beat the Jewish declaration were the Jewish lobbyists. Father Tome Stransky, the touchy, young Paulist who rides a Lambretta to work at the Secretariat, thought that once the press got on to the Council there was no way to stop such pressure groups. If the Council could have deliberated in secret with no strainings from the outside, he thinks the declaration would have been stronger.

[Here we see the double-edged sword to which the Talmudians sometimes fall somewhat prey to. They push an agenda so strongly in the press that a few people begin to counter it, and then they need to backpedal a bit and take a second, smoother run at it later. But in this way they caused the temperature and they continue to boil the frog alive.]

As it stands, Stransky fears that some Catholics may gleefully pass it off as if it were written to and for Jews. “This, you have got to remember, is addressed to Catholics. This is Catholic Church business. I don’t mind telling you I’d be insulted, too, if I were a Jew and I thought this document was speaking to Jews.” For the Catholics, he thinks it is now written for its best effect.

It was Stransky’s superior in the Secretariat, Cardinal Bea, who came around most to the claims of the conservatives. Bea apparently realized fairly late that there were some Catholics, more pious than instructed, whose contempt for Jews was inseparable from their love for Christ. To be told by the Council that Jews were not Christ-killers would be too abrupt a turnabout for their faith. These were Catholicism’s simple dogmatics. But there were many bishops at the Council who, if far less simple, were no less dogmatic. They felt Jewish pressure in Rome and resented it. They thought Bea’s enemies were proved right when Council secrets turned up in American papers. “He wants to turn the Church over to the Jews,” the hatemongers said of the old Cardinal, and some dogmatics in the Council thought the charge about right. “Don’t say the Jews had any part in this,” one priest said, “or the whole fight with the dogmatics will start over.”

[Once again, hiding facts to fit a false narrative is always the way.]

Another, Father Felix Morlion at the Pro Deo University, who heads the study group working closely with the AJC, thought the promulgated text the best. “The one before had more regard for the sensitiveness of the Jewish people, but it did not produce the necessary clearness in the minds of Christians,” he said. “In this sense, it was less effective even to the very cause of the Jewish people.”

Morlion knew just what the Jews did to get the declaration and why the Catholics had settled its compromise. “We could have beaten the dogmatics,” he insisted. They could, indeed, but the cost would have been a split in the Church. END

[And of course, 60 years on, we can see clearly that the Church was not merely split, but largely torn asunder by the impostors. The vast majority of “cradle Catholics” remain ignorant of their own religion and are abandoning the false Church in droves, because although ignorant they can sense a deep malaise, a veritable cancer at the centre of it. those who bother to educate themselves at all inevitably become Sedevacantists, where a small but hardy group of valid clergy, priests and bishops, still exist who provide the sacraments to the faithful.]

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Both polls will last 3 days.

If you had to blame one group of people the most for most of the problems in the world you would blame:

And poll number 2:

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Before I begin the drawing and quartering of this fake and supposedly “Catholic” Edmund Mazza, who lies about Catholicism so smoothly and easily he makes John Salza jealous, let me point out this is a guy who spells his own name wrong too. From his site:

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Anyway, Ed-Mund, over at Anna Barnhardt’s site “Answered” the question I have been asking Ann for years, which she has dodged, refused to acknowledge and generally pretended is a “crazy” question without ever saying why. Nor, has she ever explained after how long her OWN “Sedevacantism” (fake too because she figures Ratzi-the-Nazi was a legitimate Catholic, and, ridiculously, valid Pope) becomes “crazy”.

But be that all as it is, here is her post, via Ed-Mundi as I shall call him from now on (as in: education of/from/by the world, from the Latin).

This is the question, posed by an ignorant reader of Ann’s who has nevertheless smelt a bit of a rat…

Question :

Dear Ann and the Gang,

While I can agree that Prevost cannot be Pope based on what he is saying, the thing that bothers me is the reasoning you are using to make the case: how does it substantially differ from the arguments made by the sedevacantists who say there has been no valid Pope since Pius XII or John XIII?

If you rely on “heresy disqualifies or takes away any office” then how can you accept any of the Popes after Pius XII?

Sincerely yours,

P

It’s Roncalli, who took on the name of a previous antipope John XXIII not XIII, but hey, these people can’t even spell their own name right, we can’t hold them to any kind of standard of truth, duty or logic.

And here is the intentionally disingenuous lie, posted by the lying liar, Ed-Mundi Mazza. 1

Which we will now tear to pieces with sunlight, truth and disinfectant.

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Answer (written by NonVeni Mark): I believe the answer is that none of post-conciliar, pre-Bergoglian popes ever denied an infallibly defined dogma of the faith .

That is an outrageous lie, of course, with dozens of examples for each of the freemasons pretending to be Popes. All you need to do is read the 16 documents of Vatican II and realise that from Roncalli on they ALL promoted them and promulgated them. Roncalli died before the first two documents were published, but he approved them officially and finally before publication, which even if he weren’t a freemason, and invalidly elected (which both things he was beyond any doubt) would on its own, be enough to make him an antipope posthumously as almost all antipopes before him were declared.

Aside from Inter Mirifica which is the ONLY document that does not have clear and direct heresy, 2 ALL the other 15 documents of Vatican II do. I have detailed SOME of these in EVERY document in my book, Reclaiming the Catholic Church, and there has been ZERO refutation of the facts presented there by anyone. Because you simply can’t refute the truth.

The errors of Vatican II do not rise to the level of dogmatic negation, and the council itself declared that it defined no new dogma.

This is a lie. Plain and simple.

Sacrosanctum Concilium was the other document that Roncalli Approved of officially before dying, along with Inter Mirifica , and what do we find in it?

Because this is such an outrageous lie, I have copied the entire section from my book Reclaiming the Catholic Church regarding this document alone:

Pretence: It ordered an extensive revision of worship so that people

would have a “clearer sense” of their own involvement in the Mass and

other rites.

Heresies:

The whole point of this constitution is to literally modernise the sacred

rites and sacraments of the Church. That, in and of itself is heresy of the

highest order. Some choice quotes will be examined, which I want to

stress are not taken “out of context” as anyone who cares to can verify

for themselves since all of these documents are online.

In any case, it is all quite plain in the very first opening sentence:

“This sacred Council has several aims in view: it desires to impart

an ever increasing vigour to the Christian life of the faithful; to

adapt more suitably to the needs of our own times those

institutions which are subject to change; to foster whatever can

promote union among all who believe in Christ; to strengthen

whatever can help to call the whole of mankind into the household

of the Church. The Council therefore sees particularly cogent

reasons for undertaking the reform and promotion of the liturgy.”

In that sentence alone we see the beginning of the heresies that permeate

the whole of Vatican II:

1) The sacraments and truths of the Church are not mutable with the

times, nor have they ever been so. Particularly, the Holy Mass and

divine sacrifice of the Eucharist, which have been immutable for

many centuries, yet are referred to immediately in the second point

of this false constitution. And in case you were doubtful of the

intent, it is clearly expressed in the last sentence of point number

4 (emphasis added):

“The council also desires that, where necessary, the rites be

revised carefully in the light of sound tradition, and that they

be given new vigour to meet the circumstances and needs

of modern times. ”

You see, if you are not familiar with the perfidy of the Satanists,

you might, in your innocence make the vague assumption that this

is all just really quite harmless and just trying to keep up with the

times, maybe using electricity to light a church instead of

candles… but no. Remember how right in chapter one I pointed

out that clarity of thought, and word, and action, and deed, is one

of the paramount principles of Catholicism? Well, let me refer to

it again: what exactly requires modernising in the sacraments that

have remained unchanged for almost two millennia? The simple

answer is nothing. Unless of course, you intend to become of the

world, rather than just survive in it but not be of it .

2) Similarly if you are not accustomed to thinking clearly or as a

Catholic, you may have skipped over that seemingly innocuous

sentence, which instead is truly a dagger with Protestantism

written all over it: “…to foster whatever can promote union among

all who believe in Christ…” the emphasis added is mine in order

to help you see the problem. But wait, if you’re Protestant-raised

or influenced, or confused, or a badly catechised “Catholic”, you

might be thinking I’m being over-zealous. Let me show you why

that is not so. You know who also believes in Christ? Demons.

Demons actually believe in Christ. Which is why His name is used

to chase them away in exorcisms. And why it works in that

function. So, do you really want to promote whatever will bring

union with demons? Now, I am not saying all protestants are

demonic fiends, but the point is clear: Either there is one

indivisible Church under God or there isn’t. Being one of 40,000

“ maybe I’m the one ” really cannot be it. This is simply basic logic.

If there is an absolute truth, anything else, whatever it is and

however well-intentioned, cannot be equally true. And as you will

see from the rest of the documents as well as who the creators of

Vatican II were, the whole point of it was, indeed and in fact, to

essentially make Catholicism become just another major branch of

Protestantism. Insofar as the infiltrators have succeeded, the

schismatics ruled by the antipopes —currently Bergoglio— have

become exactly that; just another Protestant sect. They are rapidly

trying to introduce female clergy, married priests, divorce by

granting 100% accepted annulments, something that should

happen only in the rarest and specific circumstances dictated by

Canon Law, bowing down, literally, to demonic idols, offering

the host to divorcees who have “remarried,” to abortion supporters

and others in knowing mortal sin who have not repented nor

confessed, and so on. Now, if you’re a protestant reading all this (I

know there are more than a few of you from my book Believe!)

and it offends you, or you don’t believe in the Catholic sacraments,

well, that’s your ignorance and loss and to a certain extent

understandable because you have been indoctrinated probably

from birth to believe all sorts of lies about Catholicism, but if

you’re a cradle “Catholic”, none of these absolute dogmatic

positions should surprise you. Either you’re a Catholic… or you’re

not. It’s not difficult.

3) In essence the above two points really suffice, but reading the rest

of this documents one can begin to appreciate the underhandedness

of the authors, an exercise I did best perhaps in the evisceration of

the work of John Salza, which I have on my blog and have referred

to also in part 6.3.1.5.

If you read section III of this document it goes on at some length

about how the liturgy is sacred and

“… made up of immutable elements divinely instituted, and

of elements subject to change. ”

What elements would those be exactly, that are subject to change?

Again, it’s never defined, instead we read:

“ These not only may, but ought to be changed with the

passage of time if they have suffered from the intrusion of

anything out of harmony with the inner nature of the

liturgy or have become unsuited to it . ” (Emphasis added).

Wait, what?! The hypocrisy and audacity of these people is

nothing short of spectacular. In plain English then: The liturgy is

sacred, and immutable… except for those elements that are not

(whatever they may be) which indeed should, nay, must be

changed if they have suffered from an intrusion of some sort that

brings them out of harmony with their spiritual intent. Now… a

ten-year old can understand that if you leave the liturgy alone, and

don’t molest it, then, by default, nothing can enter it that is counter

to its intent and spirit. But if something ever did do that (through

some change) then it should simply be identified in specific and

returned to the original. Surely that makes sense. What do we have

here instead? We are told that there will be a change, because of

some other change that supposedly occurred at some previous

time, though no one will tell us when or where. And this new

change, we are assured will be all in keeping with… the original

immutable intent? Well… not exactly, but in keeping with the need for

modernising it so that they;

“… express more clearly the holy things which they signify. ”

Really? Something that has been unchanged for centuries

suddenly needs changing to be understood better? And tell me that

in your own life you have not noticed that whenever this

progressive garbage-language is used, what immediately follows

is a veritable deluge of ineptitude, confusion and brokenness. And

that occurs in businesses actively trying to remain profitable.

Never mind a Satanic infestation of people intentionally trying to

muddy the waters. The hypocrisy is precisely that they are

pretending some mystical unseen, unheard, unknown something

has intruded in the Liturgy and as such requires them to be

changed. We are then assured that all proper care must be taken to

ensure this is done carefully and in keeping with good sense and

so on, only to be immediately followed by this:

“ 25. The Liturgical books are to be revised as soon as

possible; experts are to be employed on the task, and

bishops are to be consulted, from various parts of the

world .”

4) A short while later we’re being directed to a Protestantism that is

bold-faced in its declaration that not only should as many of the

Liturgies as possible become public performances but that all

involved must:

“ 30. To promote active participation, the people should be

encouraged to take part by means of acclamations,

responses, psalmody, antiphons, and songs, as well as by

actions, gestures, and bodily attitudes. And at the proper

times all should observe a reverent silence .”

Umm…no. We’re Catholics, not Charismatic Evangelicals, or

Baptist snake-handlers, or Kumba-ya Happy-Clappies. If you have

never attended a Latin Mass, this may seem again, facetious, it is

not. Holy Communion, The Mass, is a reverent, respectful and

dignified event and until it was eviscerated by the impostors and

made the illicit parody that is the Novus Orco Mass, you certainly

did not have any such foolishness such as singing and dancing by

the congregation, or much less the priest. However, after Vatican

II, all such utterly disrespectful rubbish, including gay, fake clerics

in rainbow capes dancing at the altar, became seen in what used to

be Catholic Churches. Don’t take my word for it. Feel free to injure

your retinas by searching videos on YouTube. The document goes

on to say the liturgical revisions must also make allowances for the

parts played by the laymen in the audience. One is reminded of

Presidential Candidate hopeless, Jeb Bush: Please clap .

5) The list of heresies continues, as does the gradual corrosion of

aspects that are not strictly speaking direct heresy in isolation, but

are once they are stacked. In part 35 there are instructions of having

Deacons or other laymen lead celebrations of various feasts by

doing Bible readings and study, yet another practice that is very

Protestant in its form, though there isn’t any rule against it

specifically. But in Catholic thought, the practice would be seen as

arrogant and egocentric, since the specific function of leading

others in matters spiritual is for the ordained members of clergy.

Of course, discussion amongst friends is fine and even great, but

to presume one man should arrogate to himself a role reserved for

people who have made huge sacrifice and dedicated their lives to

it, is certainly not seen as wise or welcome.

In part 36 we are told that while Latin should always be preserved

(it was later tried to be done away with at every turn), there should

be nothing preventing doing the Mass in the common tongue of the

region. Why? Why would there be any reason to change it at all?

The Latin Mass had been observed for centuries by all Catholics

and any Catholic could have the same Mass anywhere in the world

without needing to know the local language at all since it was a

familiar ritual to him. Today, most young people have no idea that

70 years ago your mass in China, America, Portugal, Vietnam,

England, Brazil, or anywhere else, was identical.

In part 40 they sort of rip off the band-aid and pretty much spell it

out:

“ 40. In some places and circumstances, however, an even

more radical adaptation of the liturgy is needed, and this

entails greater difficulties. ”

And then goes on to say that where adapting existing liturgies to

include local practices is a bit difficult, they should refer them to

the Holy See (who being led by an impostor, would no doubt be

approved).

The full and final nail in the coffin of this excretable “Constitution”

is however point 50. It reads as follows:

“ The rite of the Mass is to be revised in such a way that the

intrinsic nature and purpose of its several parts, as also the

connection between them, may be more clearly manifested,

and that devout and active participation by the faithful may

be more easily achieved.

For this purpose the rites are to be simplified, due care

being taken to preserve their substance; elements which,

with the passage of time, came to be duplicated, or were

added with but little advantage, are now to be discarded;

other elements which have suffered injury through accidents

of history are now to be restored to the vigour which they

had in the days of the holy Fathers, as may seem useful or

necessary .”

There is only one teensy-weensy little problem with that though.

It’s an immutable Papal Encyclical called Quo Primum issued by

Pope Pius V in 1570, and in short it says that the Latin Tridentine

Mass shall not in any way be changed, for time immemorial, and

that any attempt to do so is an attack on the Church. It really is that

clear and definitive. Don’t take my word for it, read it yourself, it’s

included in its entirety in Appendix III at the end of this book.

All of the above points concerning Sacrosanctum Concilium , only cover

the first 10 pages of a 34-page document; and not at all exhaustively. It

would probably take a year of full-time work to list every single problem

with each of the 16 documents of Vatican II, but hopefully this gives you

a sense of things. The remaining documents will not be gone into in such

detail, but rather more perfunctorily dealt with. I urge, however, anyone

trying to refute my points here to please go and verify all I say in this

chapter by referring to the documents themselves.

So, even in just that ONE document, you have absolute direct heresy, that wants and indeed DID change the Holy Mass, which goes against an immutable aspect of dogma, which as if it wasn’t already obvious, also has been immortalised in Quo Primum .

Even if this was all we had, it would be enough to prove Mazza 3 a complete and knowing liar.

Of the errors that do exist, some are a matter of interpretation (Dignitatis Humanae, Lumen Gentium), and some are indeed more serious and opposed to perennial teaching (Nostra Aetate).

Nope, nope, and nope. they are filthy heresy, plain and simple.

Want proof? Okay then, this is in Lumen Gentium which he says are a matter of “interpretation” (a heresy in itself since the Church has ALWAYS made it very clear what is true and good and what is not). Again, from my book:

Part 16 however is where we find the absolute centre of the heresy

here, for it unambiguously dispenses with the Catholic Church

altogether and equates all manner of heretic and even demon-

inspired sects as equivalent and all suitable for salvation.

“ But the plan of salvation also includes those who

acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these

there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of

Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God,

who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far

distant from those who in shadows and images seek the

unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and

breath and all things, and as Saviour wills that all men be

saved .”

I mean, to see that this is heresy doesn’t even require a shred of

faith. Regardless if you even believe as a Catholic or not, it is

absolutely a fundamental principle of Catholicism that outside of

the Catholic Church there is no salvation. There literally would be

no point in the Catholic Church even existing if it were not for the

fact that it is clearly distinguished from all the other beliefs in God

we find on Earth. It is such a ridiculous heresy that as I say it is

nonsensical. It would be the equivalent of saying to a Muslim that

eating pork steaks is just fine, never been an issue.

Penis-head continues:

Our faithful assumption is that these errors will be corrected in due time, because… this sort of thing has happened before.

No. It has not. You lying liar that lies. Oh wait… you mean that antipopes were seen as antipopes and things corrected even several decades after the fact? Oh, yeah, okay then. This may happen eventually. And you will be in Hell along with the impostors for throwing shade for them.

The most famous case is that of the omission of the Filioque in the Nicene Creed, something that wasn’t corrected for 700 years, at the cost of schism. Surprisingly, this does not rise to the level of dogmatic error, because none of the various creeds are considered infallible.

As always the sophists take something completely different and try to pretend it is the same as what they are trying to pass off as “valid”. An omission of something is not a dogmatic intentional heresy. The inclusion of an intentional, dogmatic heresy is. And 15 of the 16 Vatican II documents all have this in them: Intentional, dogmatic heresy. Which is completely different from not stating a point of dogma in a credo (there could potentially be hundreds of omissions of dogma in any credo, after all!)

For me, the most relevant episode in comparison to Vatican II is the Council of Constance during the Great Western Schism. This validly-convoked council eventually obtained the disposition of all three simultaneous claimants to the papacy, and the installation of a valid and universally accepted one.

Once again, let’s take this donkey, and look at it and pretend it is an orange, so we can say an orange is similar to an apple, and so the apple Eve ate is just fine. This is the level of “proof” these Satanists try and slide past you, like a rapist with Rohypnol at the ready for your drink.

But before that, the council in 1415 promulgated the heresy of Conciliarism (Haec Sancta), which does indeed violate at least two infallible dogmas. This error was not corrected until a hundred years and three popes later. None of those men were considered antipopes, and no one thought the Church had apostatised.

Once again, because ERROR is NOT HERESY. You liar. And trying to pretend it is, is a LIE.

The backstop of the Petrine Promises came in the form of the Holy Ghost preventing the proper implementation of plan as was laid out in the document”Frequens” which determined the frequency of councils going forward as having the primacy of jurisdiction over the Church. Again, no one went Sede, no one claimed the Church apostatized. People simply waited, and it was eventually corrected.

Here he just babbles about things obscure to most people, in baby, obfuscating, imprecise, bafflgarble nonsense in the hope it confuses you to become hypnotised into accepting his overall lie.

Aside: The current heresy of Synodality is much worse, of course, because it uses the model of Conciliarism but extends the ruling body to the non-ordained, violating still other infallible dogmas. A laymen attempting to wield ecclesiastical jurisdiction is a heretic by Divine Law.

Oh, you mean EXACTLY like in Sacrosanct Concilium right at the start here, that ALL the fake “Popes” promoted along with the other 15 documents of VII and all their dozens of heresies? Right.

(Everything in the above answer was written by NonVeni Mark.)

And approved by Satan himself.

These people can in no way any longer be thought to be in “error”. Mazza is clearly a Satanic promoter of Freemasonry and the destruction of the real Church, as are people like John Salza and so on.

Ann is instead, to my view, simply a completely prideful and silly woman, who out of sheer arrogance and pride will not admit her fault, which is that 1958 Sedevacantist (and only the Totalises at that) are the only people still following the actual Catholic Church.

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I have a long history of calling out PUAs for the try-hard losers they really are, for the weak mindset they have, and worse, that they try to instil in others.

I wrote a post on the generics of relationships back in 2010 from a purely secular perspective based only on natural reality absent any religious context, and it still holds up even now, 15 years later after I became a Totalist Sedevacantist Catholic in 2017.

That is a good test that the logic was sound even then, so you might want to read through it, and you will see that even then, PUAs were classified as snake-oil salesmen, grifters, and kind of gay. Because they are.

You can see blog posts of mine going back over a decade concerning this issue, and I exposed various of them in multiple ways for the tragic dry-humpers they are:

• Here for example
• And here concerning the need for women to be dumb baby machines
• And here, rejecting the wish of others to make me into a PUA “guru”
• and here, the actual book to put to rest at least some of the noise.

But a recent interaction with a couple of these abject losers has prompted this post.

I came across one post by this self-styled PUA some time ago that was at least passingly interesting , although, even then, I cautioned against it, pointing out it stank of weakness, lies, and basic loser syndrome in general. Anyone familiar with my Substack or even more so the OG blog every post here gets mirrored to (which has many more posts) will have understood that wile I gave some tentative almost passable “hmmmff… probably not a total grifterslop” it wasn’t exactly a glowing recommendation.

Since that post from a couple of months ago, I have on occasion quickly scanned maybe a couple other notes of his because they appear in my feed. I don’t subscribe to him or his nonsense, because why would I? But the stuff still appears in my feed.

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And he posted some completely retarded note that is pretty much the CORE of what is wrong with all the PUA bullshit from the start, even absent any Religious Sense of Things. And it was this:

Now, of course, I do know better than to argue with someone being an idiot on the Internet, but then, that is not what I do. I do have a hobby though, and it is to scalp the occasional idiot in public, primarily for my own entertainment, secondarily for your entertainment, and in a distant third, in the vain hope that other idiots will give me a wide berth, at minimum. A fourth, miraculous-level fantasy, of course, is also that it becomes an educational life-lesson for at least one or two people, and puts them on a better life path. But I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that it is fun to reduce these idiots to their constituents parts in public; ostensibly as a public service, but hey… we all have hobbies.

So before I show you my erudite response to that nonsense up there, that this half-French mestizo posted, 1 let me first deconstruct his stupidity, gayness, and weakness, and explain what the appropriate and considered response to such “men” is.

The underlying double ass-hump-tion that this metrosexual faggot makes is that one has to have his heart turned to stone after a failed romantic relationship. And as we will see he thinks this is INEVITABLE! [Insert here: crying brown half-Frenchman on his knees imploring heaven with his misery]

Let us examine in more logical detail what this means:

1. This faggot clearly had his heart broken by a woman that was above the usual 3-6 he manages to bed while they are drunk, high, or desperate. Probably a 7 that dressed passably; and it wrecked him.
2. He self-admits it’s his weakness. He’s so desperate for “love” that he admits he falls for it and gets crushed once his delusion bubble pops. Be very clear what is happening here: This mama’s boy, probably with an absent (darkie) father, felt he was not loved enough by mommy, so he now seeks it in some woman that is not a complete hobgoblin. If only Vanessa the 7 could “TRULY LOVE ME!” He implores the sky, still crying, “THEN I WOULD BE A MAN!” you can just tell his whole persona is tied up in being emotionally accepted “for who he is”2 by a woman. If that doesn’t scream pathetic fag, I don’t know what does.
3. Despite his saying the opposite, it’s clear he at least EXPECTED someone to “save him”. And a woman at that. But then, Brownie the Frenchie, realises mommy and proxy-mommy too NEVER REALLY LOVED HIM! [Cue kneeling Brownie-the-Frenchie crying to the heavens again, cursing his mestizo blood, his curly hair, (that he has now lost and/or shaves anyway), his (half-)Frenchness, his smell, that simply makes it impossible for a hot blonde, brunette, redhead, or any white female that has any shred of self-respect LOVE HIM! Just like mommy should have!
4. And so, now, he thinks he can bullshit the world, saying his heart is now a cold stone, he is impervious to the female charms, he is TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL! Got it guys? Got it? He’s the cool, anti-hero, damaged (by mommy) but cooler for it, “hard” guy. Until an 8, looking at her boyfriend standing behind him smiles genuinely at what he imagines is him, then he will melt into a puddle of piss again. Until he realises she wasn’t smiling at him at all, then he will burn into a ball of rage, hating women in general and pretty ones in particular. We may read about him on the news one day, and it would not be the first time I made such a prediction on one of these losers that is now behind bars for a very long time.

So. Given my kindness and empathic approach, how could I possibly help this misguided fool out of his rut? How could I concisely show him the error of his way with all the compassion he deserves?

Well, you ask, so here it is:

I know you will agree that it is the appropriate and sensitive approach he needs in order to remove the dildo from his anus, and start to learn to be an actual member of the male species. Despite this, he seems to have become a little hysterical.

Please note: Here he is once again admitting that this behaviour is what HE does. What HE did. What in his gay life, he thinks is the inevitable path of every man. This is important for later when he tries to project HIS OWN behaviour onto me. Which is a typical thing Gammas, gays, and women do.

That’s because, as a gay man, he can’t imagine anyone not being gay, like he is. It’s the typical solipsism of weak men, the gays, and women. They think the whole universe exists just for them, and everyone thinks, feels and imagines (insofar as they are even capable of grasping these concepts) just like them.

This was my response. Simple, to the point, factual:

And here we see him spin totally out of control and try to grasp at straws by PROJECTING his own situation onto me, in a way that is absurd to anyone that knows me and my history, and makes “sense” only in his gay little, half-French mind.

Note the self-admissions:

1. “Your desperate need for validation” – there is literally nothing in anything I wrote that in any way indicates I needed, craved, wanted, or sought external validation. In fact, if you do read the very first thing I linked to from 15 years ago at the top of this post, you will see that I wrote even back then that my ending up in bed with a lot of pretty women, happened as a simple byproduct of me being me, and only in a subsequent realisation of this fact (that I could and did in fact attract a lot of pretty women) realised that this ability in and of itself can give one an even deeper sense of self-knowledge. But given that it was a secondary realisation, made after the fact, one can hardly say it was anything I was actively (or even unconsciously) seeking. Clearly it wasn’t; and it makes no sense to accuse me of such, and the 15 year old post amply demonstrates it even if you didn’t know me at all. So what we have here is: projection. It is a natural phenomenon that weak men, the gays, and women use. It’s quite fascinating and telling, and I have never really understood why they think it’s effective. Any reasonable person can see it is them trying to accuse you of what THEY assume is the worst possible thing, because it is what they themselves do/fear/have in their life. I mean, I get that they can’t help it, it’s a hysterical and emotional response prompted by events that emotionally hurt them, but you’d think at least later they would reflect on it and see how obvious they are. But no. Self-reflection after all is not their forte.
2. He states quite clearly that in his world view it is women that decide if you get hurt. This is really quite astonishing and telling. And he implies that if and when it is YOU that decides to hurt yourself (because you have an erroneous view of reality) this is weak. Which it is, but that’s not the point. In his world view, it is not him that decides he was hurt, but rather “women” decide it. I mean, he has no agency you see, and this makes him… a strong man? You have to laugh at the “logic” this monkey-boy is trying to perpetuate.
3. He hallucinates that I somehow “qualified myself to him”. This is typical PUA snake-oil. When they are cornered with reality they try some squid-ink out of their ass to try to mask the fact they were “pawned” as the kids say. He’s the one that reacted in trying to defend his gay world-view, and when factual information was added to the already obvious data that proved him wrong, he tries the Jay Dyer defence of shouting and jumping like a monkey, saying something like “Ha made you look!” as if that somehow invalidates the facts, reality, or his latent homosexuality.
4. His outrage at being “insulted”. Notice that once again, as I have always pointed out for years, calling a whiny bitch a whiny bitch is not an insult. It’s an observation. It’s a statement of fact. Perhaps an axiom. But it is not an actual insult. For it to be an insult you would have to demonstrate you are not, in fact, a whiny bitch. But we have demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt, that by any honest metric, half-brownie-half-frenchie here, IS, in fact, a VERY whiny little bitch.
5. Lastly, through more projection, he exposes the true nature of his “stone heart” (more properly labelled as whiny bitch ass, still leaking from the pegging the 7 that dresses well gave him), and it is this: He was dumped by that 7 with good fashion sense. Dumped like the smelly, half-croissant, half-burnt that he is. And he projects that this is the worst possible thing he can accuse another man of.

I think at this point we have shown rather conclusively who this guy is, but since when has a Kurganing ended when the horse died? Or indeed when the mere ghost of the dead horse its till existent in the ectoplasmic world? No, no, loyal readers, you know the way of the Kurgan. So we shall continue.

As I knew this would get entertaining, I replied once more:

Here, in obvious defeat, the gay man tries one last attempt at “proving” his manliness. He writes a simple “Are you done?” to, (in his weak little gay mind) show he is not bothered at all, it’s all just words to him… right?

So I did not respond and waited a day or so…because I knew, that like all gamma-fags, as soon as he thought the coast was clear he would come dancing out claiming victory, as the Secret King he fancies himself to be.

And of course, that is what he did with several notes.

And after that, because he got fairly low engagement off this, he tried to bury those notes with another dozen or so notes to push them way down the list.

But let’s also give you a taste of how “classy” this half-immigrant is. Here, read this, in his own words, and see just what kind of class of woman he gets to bed and notice he plies them with alcohol when already drunk. I think you can see that he is really just your typical half-breed, and that the women that he ends up having temporary sex with (because even they sober up the next day) are of the sort that you find pissing in the street after a “night out”.

Which brings us to the final point.

His chip on the shoulder.

You might not notice it right away, I do because, well, having lived in Africa for some 25 years along with other countries, I can see this stuff miles away frankly. And writing and hence picking up clues about the writer he has no idea he is leaving, is a thing I have done a long time, and let’s say all my other skills too make it easy to see, but if you read a few of his posts you’ll notice it too, even if he tries to hide it behind this false mask of “I’m just cool, and calm, and collected all the time!” 3

The contempt.

The actual seething he has towards women. And white women in particular.

I will not go on at length on this because it’s obvious to those who can see it and oblivious to the ones that think I am just being a “white supremacist, racist” or whatever.

But yeah, it’s there.

It’s always there with these types. They hate their own brown-stained skin more than any racist can. And they will try to take it out on easy prey that is white.

Drunk, easy, broken, white girls.

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So I had to have a parent’s conference with the teachers… apparently the little viking has his own ideas about sitting still for several hours a day. So much so he tends to literally escape from the classroom. And he’s learnt all the ways he can get out of being in class:

• Needs a drink of water
• Needs the toilet
• If there’s a fire (he actually listed this one to me when I said he should try to follow the rules and stay at his desk. His response was to say, “okay, but not if…”
• Breaktime
• To eat

And apparently they unwisely also sat him next to the emergency escape door, which he somehow managed to convince them needs to stay ajar so he can have “fresh air”.

Aside the general statements that they all recognised he is far from stupid and that they understand he needs to move around and is not really a kid that is built for staying at a desk all morning, they nevertheless stated they really need him to not try to escape not only his class, but the entire school, as his teacher caught him on the steps to the gate that leads to the main road.

When I returned home this was the conversation:

Me: Son, what the hell are you doing trying to run out of school into the main road?

YV: I didn’t.

Me: Your teacher told me you were trying to run out if the main gate.

YV: (indignant) That’s not true!

Me: She said she caught you on the steps going to the main gate.

YV: Yes.

Me: (stares at him meaningfully)

YV: I wan’t trying to leave the school! I was chasing a lizard and trying to catch it!

I always related to Calvin and Hobbes. But I didn’t expect I’d actually have Calvin as my son.

That said… the DNA made it sort of inevitable.

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The two year old got upset with the four year old… and the wife was listening in from the landing, because she has caught the two year old use a bit of foul language from time to time and so was expecting she may need to punish the little angel-looking Aryan tyrant…

Instead… I see the wife entering our bedroom with tears in her eyes, trying to stifle a belly laugh… she recounted what she heard…

2YO: (to 4 YO) You… Little… Ass-worm!

On the one hand, this is not good…

On the other… she’s definitely advanced in grammar, composition and comprehension…

And clearly the genetic predisposition of coming up with on-the-fly inventive vulgar insults, that is a staple of both mom and dad (you know, in our pre-good Catholic days) has been fully retained.

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An article I read somewhere, now lost to time and memory, said that a long term study (over 40 years I think) of a few thousand couples found a significant statistical link between couples that stayed together long term and their teasing each other in their day to day interactions.

Me: I’m gonna be a while. The stupid national health insurance thing says the test the doctor prescribed me doesn’t exist on their national health list.

Wife: But… didn’t the doctor use the same system to prescribe it?

Me: Yup.

Wife: Of course… (she’s getting used to the way Italy “works”)

Me: So… gonna go to the hospital to see if they even have these tests there.

Wife: okay

Me: I’ll be a while…

Wife: don’t worry, do what you need to, we love you.

Me: Okay then. I’ll try to come home not smelling of other women…

Wife: Awww…

We should be fine until old age.

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